Guidance in learning Particle Physics

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The discussion centers on self-learning particle physics, with participants sharing resources, book recommendations, and advice on necessary mathematical foundations. The scope includes theoretical understanding and preparation for quantum field theory (QFT).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on books and mathematical topics for self-learning particle physics, mentioning a background in undergraduate quantum mechanics and abstract algebra.
  • Another participant suggests that a course in electromagnetism would be beneficial and recommends Griffiths' "Introduction to Elementary Particles" as a preparatory text for QFT.
  • Several QFT textbooks are proposed, including Srednicki, Peskin & Schroeder, and Zee, with varying opinions on their accessibility and thoroughness.
  • Contour integration is mentioned as a useful technique to learn, with the suggestion to explore it further when encountered in textbooks.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the recommendations and inquires about specific books on Lie Algebra.
  • Additional recommendations for particle physics texts are provided, emphasizing the importance of studying QFT in relation to particle physics.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of QFT for studying particle physics and share various book recommendations. However, there is no consensus on a single best approach or resource, and some participants express disappointment at the limited engagement in the thread.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about prior knowledge and the necessity of certain mathematical techniques, which may not be universally applicable to all learners. The conversation reflects a range of perspectives on the best resources and approaches to learning particle physics.

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I want to start self-learning particle physics, and was wondering if any of you can give me some pointers as to what to do in terms of books to read, maths to learn, etc.

Some background: I have taken undergrad level quantum mechanics 1 and 2 (completed Griffiths), and also a course on abstract algebra (basic group theory + intro to rings and fields).

My current plan for the short term: I plan to self-study from Griffiths' "Introduction to Elementary Particles" (heard great things about it), and also concurrently self-study Lie Algebra this summer.

I then plan to move on to slightly more formal books on particle physics (any recommendations?).

Any kind of input is welcomed and much appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Your background sounds good. Have you taken an undergraduate electromagnetism course? That will be helpful at some point.

If what you really want to learn is quantum field theory, Griffiths's book gives some flavor of this but doesn't derive everything from first principles and will probably leave you wondering, for example, where the Feynman rules come from. Spending some time with Griffiths is probably a good idea, but only as a way of preparing for "real" QFT.

Then some standard standard QFT textbooks are by Srednicki; Peskin & Schroeder; and Zee. I like Srednicki's book as a thorough introduction which works everything out in the simplest possible QFT before moving on to QED. Peskin & Schroeder is also very thorough but I found it less accessible because it dives directly into QED. Zee is not good as a main book to learn from, but has some useful insights. Having more than one QFT book is a good idea.

Lie algebras are an excellent topic to study alongside QFT.

If you haven't already, you'll want to learn a bit about the technique of solving integrals by contour integration. But it's not too complicated and you can just wait until you run into it in a textbook and then Google will turn up plenty of useful sites that will teach you about it.
 
Thanks The_Duck for the response. I have indeed taken an EM course, in fact I'm finishing the second half of Griffiths this semester in my second undergrad EM course.

Also luckily I do have some experience with contour integration, from a course on mathematical methods in physics I took last year.

Also thanks for the book recommendations. Any recommendations on Lie Algebra books?

Thanks again.

Though I must say, with over a hundred views and only 1 reply, I am quite disappointed.
 
The_Duck recommendations are good, but keep in mind that they have to do with quantum field theory. It is probably indispensable to spend some time learning quantum field theory on its own if you want to study particle physics. I post some recommendations on particle physics.

"Lie Algebras in Particle Physics : from Isospin To Unified Theories"
Howard Georgi
Frontiers in Physics, Westview Press

"An introduction to Gauge Theories and Modern Particle Physics"
Leader & Predazzi
Cambridge Monographs on Particle Physics, Nuclear Physics and Cosmology

"Dynamics of the Standard Model"
Donoghue, Golowich & Holstein
CUP

"Gauge Field Theories"
Stefan Pokorski
CUP

Particle Data Group review (2012)
 
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Though I must say, with over a hundred views and only 1 reply, I am quite disappointed.

Sometimes you actually get what you pay for. :wink:
 

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