arivero said:
Yep TeV, random alchemical allusions happen form time to time. Their theory of matter was a dualistic one, every body due to a mix of a "Mercuric" substance and a "Sulphurous" one (no planet for it!). Any manipulation of matter was to be understand in these bipolar terms. Guess it eventually evolved to Reduction/Oxidation etc in modern Chemistry.
Interestingly, the "psychological sense" invoked by sol2 is seen as crackpottery by current practising alchemists!
I beg to differ on terms of crackpottery
Myths are a interesting thing.
I spoke on this subject in relation to
http://wc0.worldcrossing.com/WebX?50@80.qwgVbNnebgf.0@.1dde81eb , by Jean Shinoda Bolen. Here you see real artistry at work. One of many forms of creativity
At various times there were references that we engaged at a previous time on this subject. Some memories might be sparked, even with clear acclamations of certainty
If one was to identify such a thought of what could have been found in men who live the cycles of lives, passing things onto there children, what would have been the choice but to teach all the courage to venture out into life and be brave about it(sense of confidence would have been spoken as bravery). Dickt is right about this. Yet such boldness could have found itself exploited by a mind unaware of the extent of the way he might have lived his life, and realized to late, his children have been listening all along.
So, how is the cycle broken? Wotan in leadership, would have been devastating in the roles of a Hitler, and where would we have seen such thoughts moved into the world of a messiah complex?
Is it then, we are without the roles models for giving our children a path and image, then to have demonstrated such bull headness? Image a pure race and what hogwash, and if it was set as a ideal, what could have be transmitted to a people that were doing better then they that dream?
So what has been done but to have Hitler share his dream and what now becomes the dream of the people? I think we know what I am talking about here? And a Jewish people became the brunt of his values?
So Wotan has harbored feelings of never having enough, and to see such mindness in terms of the way life is lived in religious principles, Wotan created his own religion. His soldiers, the SS. He realize the vision his people needed, and imagine, that out of such a devalued dollar, a war machine must be developed with a purpose, to put its people back to work and expand its borders? Recover parts of the country that was lost, to have soveriety demonstrated, and acknowldeged? How many leaders(countries) have done the same?
Doc:[I]If such archetypes exist as in the case of the "wotan" complex--which could be considered, the psyche "shadow" of God or the devil, one would have to consider the possibility that if this "center for evil" is ignored or repressed for an extensive period, it will "break forth" in its usual mischievous, tricksier mode that could result in devastation but on the other side, it could be constructive or in a merrymaking state.[/I]
Repression, and what of Hitlers life, could have found him without a role model, to discover he would institute his values? So do we say that such repression could have arisen from a self without direction? Envy of another, who might of lived a better life and what does he do. What could any culture do, that is without the resources to develope and watches as a desert is made into a garden?
Would it have been selfishness then that those who hold such values on life could have gone without their wotan complexes themselves? Wotan might have risen out of a evolutionary creature, who conscience has not been given, and who does he ignore? His own children in face of his goals and that any desire of control, being past to his sons, would have found a illusion created because he could have never relinquished control? So unaware of the people that live in close proximity, its borders, why has not the olive branch been extended instead of the guns and death in retaliation? The cycle of violence and the ring of power?
Who is the king then, that we could compared any ego, to one that has a narrow view on life, to have recognized the wider perspective of vision and awareness would have relegate such a ego to venture into the world with such bravery and self confidence. It would have required a Wotan, who had developed his compassion for others. By then he is no longer the king without a conscience but a king who might have realized that such a kingdom of heaven could have been attained in life.
Because we use such models for thinking, it might have been missed that is does not matter the way in whcih to choose to value these steps to perfection or harmonious natures ( music of the spheres). Imagine usng quantum geometry tied to the very nature of our thinking and modelling on a scale in consideration of dimension, from "least to most". What kind of thought value system would emerge?
Thoughts by there very nature discrete, while those of a fluid nature, very flexible in the world of concretize belief systems.
Imagine the monte carlo method and the idealization of triangulation tied to the brains thought function as amodel for quantum gravity.
Even you arivero chose a
story of Mowgli for consideration and having a deeper meaning then you realized at first?
So sure, we use models all the time. Mathematicians do it, and summarize very nicely for us based on those formulations. These are the most interesting summations I am drawn too, because of its artistic flare that some can draw better then others?
If you want to make a deep impression you have to be colorful about it:)
