Hawking radiation & Information loss

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The discussion centers on the implications of Hawking radiation's existence on the information loss paradox related to black holes. If Hawking radiation is not proven to exist, it suggests that information remains trapped within black holes, potentially resolving the paradox. Conversely, if Hawking radiation does exist, the fate of information becomes more complex, as it may still be lost even in the presence of radiation. Participants express confusion about the relationship between Hawking radiation and the nature of information within black holes. Ultimately, the debate highlights the ongoing uncertainty in understanding black hole physics and information theory.
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What if there is no hawking radiation i.e if it is not proved..i think it is not yet proved...so will it have any influence on information loss paradox..if there is no hawking radiation then the information would be inside black hole and not accessible..so there is no information loss paradox if there is no hawking radiation...any comments..
 
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I'm no expert but wouldn't that mean you don't have a singularity? By "information" do you mean subatomic identities? I understand I am working at a very basic level here, just a curious layman.
 
spidey said:
What if there is no hawking radiation i.e if it is not proved..i think it is not yet proved...so will it have any influence on information loss paradox..if there is no hawking radiation then the information would be inside black hole and not accessible..so there is no information loss paradox if there is no hawking radiation...any comments..

even if anyone prooves that there is no hawking radiation then how will black hole evaporation take place. hawking radition is the one which causes the decrease in the event horizon. so the black holes will be hawing increasing event horizons.
 
spidey said:
What if there is no hawking radiation i.e if it is not proved..i think it is not yet proved...so will it have any influence on information loss paradox..if there is no hawking radiation then the information would be inside black hole and not accessible..so there is no information loss paradox if there is no hawking radiation...any comments..

It's the opposite. if there is no Hawking radiation then for sure there is information loss. If Hawking radiation is real, then the issue is less clear. If th eradiation is truly thermal, information is still lost. That's the whole question: whether or not the information is radiated away in the form of subtle correlations in the radiation.
 
nrqed said:
It's the opposite. if there is no Hawking radiation then for sure there is information loss. If Hawking radiation is real, then the issue is less clear. If th eradiation is truly thermal, information is still lost. That's the whole question: whether or not the information is radiated away in the form of subtle correlations in the radiation.

if there is no hawking radiation,then information would be inside the black hole but not accessible to our world...u said that information is lost if there is no hawking radiation..how is that?
 
Even hawking himself said in his information loss paradox paper,classically, there is no information loss in black holes since the black holes live forever,it could be thought that information would be inside the black hole.
 

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