He-Ne Laser Wavelengths & Quantum Effects

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The discussion revolves around the emission characteristics of a low power He-Ne laser, specifically focusing on the number of photons emitted per second and the power level at which quantum effects may become significant. The subject area includes quantum mechanics and laser physics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of photon emission and express confusion regarding the relationship between laser power and quantum effects. Questions are raised about the relevance of the wavelength and the impact of power on quantum behavior.

Discussion Status

The conversation reflects a lack of clarity regarding the second part of the problem, with multiple participants expressing confusion and questioning the textbook's accuracy. Some guidance is suggested about considering the relationship between photon energy and gain bandwidth, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in the textbook regarding the wavelength of He-Ne lasers, with references to different values and concerns about the overall quality of the text. There is an emphasis on the need for reliable resources in the study of lasers.

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Homework Statement



How many photons per second does a low power (1 mW) He-Ne laser (\lambda=336nm) emit?

At what He-Ne laser power do you expect quantum effects to become important?

The Attempt at a Solution



I got the answer to the first part, 1.7\times 10^{15} photons/second.

But the second part makes no sense to me. The book doesn't talk about lasers at all in this chapter or the ones before it. I looked HeNe lasers up on google, and I saw statements like these:

He-Ne lasers as used for holography operate at a wavelength of 632.8 nm, with a power ranging from 0.5 mW to 100 mW

So apparently, the power does not effect the wavelength! And so for the HeNe laser in the question, the wavelength will always be \lambda=336nm. So how could changing the power possibly effect the wavelengths and hence the relavence of quantum effects? Is this a trick question?Thanks!
 
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It makes no sense to me either. Obviously it made no sense to anyone at PF or someone would have answered.
 
Yeah, I'm not surprised. This books sucks horribly. It's littered with typos and the author doesn't even know how to use LaTeX! (For example, she uses a '.' (period) to represent dot products! And she randomly switches the usage of the Greek letters nu and upsilon, as if they were the same letter. I have no confidence in this text!)
 
I think... in general (?)... you need to look at when the photon energy becomes comparable to the bandwidth of the gain.
 
I think the first major typo is the wavelength. A HeNe laser operates at
633 nm and not 366 nm as indicated in your quote-box.
 
Edgardo said:
I think the first major typo is the wavelength. A HeNe laser operates at
633 nm and not 366 nm as indicated in your quote-box.

Yes, definitely seems like another typo.

If any of you are teachers, make sure you don't use https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387281525/?tag=pfamazon01-20. I'm embarrassed that the author is a prof at my university.
 
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If you are searching for good books, I can recommend the following:

1) Understanding Lasers: An Entry-Level Guide (IEEE Press Understanding Science & Technology Series) by Jeff Hecht
This book is easy to read and serves good as an introduction.

2) Principles of Lasers by Orazio Svelto
This book has more details.

3) Lasers (Hardcover) by A. E. Siegman
This is the bible on lasers.

4) Fundamentals of Photonics by Saleh, Teich
Contains many topics besides lasers.
 
I'd recommend:

Semiconductor-Laser Physics (Hardcover)
by Weng W. Chow (Author), Stephan W. Koch (Author), Murray, III Sargent (Author)
 

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