Heat added to Monatomic Gas at Constant Pressure

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the addition of heat to a monatomic gas at constant pressure, specifically focusing on how this affects the temperature change of the gas. Participants are examining the relevant equations and concepts related to thermodynamics, particularly the heat capacities of gases.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to determine the temperature change without an initial temperature, questioning whether it is straightforward to solve for delta T using the provided equations. There is also confusion regarding the correct heat capacity to use, with references to both Cp and Cv.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct application of the equations, confirming the use of Cp for monatomic gases at constant pressure. However, there remains some uncertainty about the equations and their derivations, as well as the implications of the initial temperature not being given.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with a formula sheet that includes different equations for heat capacities, leading to confusion about which to apply in this context. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct understanding of the relationships between internal energy, heat, and temperature change.

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Homework Statement



If 650 J of heat are added to 21 moles of a monatomic gas at constant pressure, how much does the temperature of the gas increase? (in Kelvins)

Homework Equations


U = nRT
Q=(5/2)nR(T2-T1)


The Attempt at a Solution



well how do you even know how much the temperature changes by if they don't give u an initial temperature? or is it just as simple as solving for delta T in which you just do

650J = (5/2)(21)( 8.31 J/mol.K )(Delta T)

is it really that simple or do i have to do something with the 21 moles and convert it or anything? and once i do get the Delta T must that be converted or something in order to have it end up in Kelvins? I ended up with 1.4899K I am not sure if that's right though.
 
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It is correct. Do not write it out with more than 3 digits. ehild
 
KendrickLamar said:

Homework Statement



If 650 J of heat are added to 21 moles of a monatomic gas at constant pressure, how much does the temperature of the gas increase? (in Kelvins)

Homework Equations


U = nRT
Careful. For a monatomic ideal gas, internal energy, U = 3nRT/2
Q=(5/2)nR(T2-T1)
Note that T is in Kelvins, and Q is in Joules and R is in Joule/mol Kelvin. The molar heat capacity Cp (=5R/2) is temperature independent ie. it is the same for all T.

The Attempt at a Solution



well how do you even know how much the temperature changes by if they don't give u an initial temperature? or is it just as simple as solving for delta T in which you just do

650J = (5/2)(21)( 8.31 J/mol.K )(Delta T)

is it really that simple ...
It is that simple.

AM
 
wait so is it 3/2 or 5/2? because i have 2 equations from the formula sheet he gave us one says

Cp = 5/2 * R and one says Cv = 3/2 * R ? or in this case is it the 3/2*5/2 or something?
 
Cp is the molar specific heat capacity at constant pressure, and it is 5/2 R for mono-atomic gases. You add heat at constant pressure, so Cp was correctly used.

ehild
 
thank you guys, appreciate it a lot
 
KendrickLamar said:
wait so is it 3/2 or 5/2? because i have 2 equations from the formula sheet he gave us one says

Cp = 5/2 * R and one says Cv = 3/2 * R ? or in this case is it the 3/2*5/2 or something?
Cp = 5R/2 and Cv=3R/2. But you had U = nRT. That is not correct. U = nCvT = (3/2)nRT.

AM
 

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