Heating a metallic rod from one end by continuous heat flux

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The discussion focuses on solving the heat transfer equation for a metallic rod subjected to continuous heating at one end, with boundary conditions defined at both ends of the rod. The temperature profile before reaching steady state is derived, with the left end maintained at temperature T1 and the right end at T2, leading to a steady state solution of U(x,t) = T1 - (T1-T2/L)x. The transient behavior indicates that the heat flux at the heated end initially spikes to infinity before stabilizing, while the flux at the other end starts at zero and gradually increases. The participants explore the implications of Fourier coefficients and the behavior of the temperature gradient, noting that the flux fluctuates at the boundary and converges to a steady state over time. The conversation concludes with a clarification of the flux behavior at the boundaries, emphasizing the complexity of the transient heat conduction problem.
  • #61
1. Add a fictitious section of length Δ to the end of the existing rod, featuring the same thermal properties as the existing rod.

2. Hold the temperature at x = L' = L + Δ constant at u = 0 for all times.

3. At final steady state, the temperature profile in the combined rod will be ##u = \frac{P}{KA}(L+Δ-x)##. Choose Δ such that, at final steady state, u = T2 at x = L:

$$Δ=T_2\frac{KA}{P}$$

4. Solve the problem for the combined rod of length L' = L + Δ, but only consider the solution for the region between x = 0 and x = L.

Chet
 
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  • #62
Chestermiller said:
1. Add a fictitious section of length Δ to the end of the existing rod, featuring the same thermal properties as the existing rod.

2. Hold the temperature at x = L' = L + Δ constant at u = 0 for all times.

3. At final steady state, the temperature profile in the combined rod will be ##u = \frac{P}{KA}(L+Δ-x)##. Choose Δ such that, at final steady state, u = T2 at x = L:

$$Δ=T_2\frac{KA}{P}$$

4. Solve the problem for the combined rod of length L' = L + Δ, but only consider the solution for the region between x = 0 and x = L.

Chet
This seems to be a brilliant simplification. In fact I thought of it but I discarded it because I felt that the thermal proprietaries of the room air around my rod of length L, is different from the thermal properties of the rod material of that additional fictitious length Δ.
I will follow it once again and I will post the calculation.
 
  • #64
I didn't have it to go through all the details of your analysis, but it certainly looks like you had the right idea. One thing I would do is, instead of saying that the sum is over the odd values of n, replace n by (2n-1) and say that the sum is over all values of n.

Chet
 
  • #65
But this solution will not satisfy the mixed boundary condition that was proposed in an earlier post (#53). As the ratio between u(L,t) and ux(L,t) is not satisfied at all times but only at t is large enough.
 

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  • #66
Adel Makram said:
But this solution will not satisfy the mixed boundary condition that was proposed in an earlier post (#53). As the ratio between u(L,t) and ux(L,t) is not satisfied at all times but only at t is large enough.
So... Is that a problem? The two problem specifications are slightly different, and give two slightly different solutions. Who's to say that one is more realistic than the other. The new formulation assumes that you add a small additional piece of rod to the end of the existing rod. This small additional piece of rod has thermal inertia. The previous formulation essentially assumes the same thing, except that the thermal inertia of the small additional piece is negligible. So what?

Chet
 
  • #67
Chestermiller said:
So... Is that a problem? The two problem specifications are slightly different, and give two slightly different solutions. Who's to say that one is more realistic than the other. The new formulation assumes that you add a small additional piece of rod to the end of the existing rod. This small additional piece of rod has thermal inertia. The previous formulation essentially assumes the same thing, except that the thermal inertia of the small additional piece is negligible. So what?

Chet
So what is the model that best describe the reality? Which model the needle will follow in nature, the one with mixed BCs or the one with fictitious additional length with the same thermal properties?
 
  • #68
Adel Makram said:
So what is the model that best describe the reality? Which model the needle will follow in nature, the one with mixed BCs or the one with fictitious additional length with the same thermal properties?
It doesn't pay to compare them, because they both give just about the same results. It would be splitting hairs. The actual boundary condition at x = L depends on what you deliberately decide to impose there.

Chet
 
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So, Thank you for your help in solving this problem.
Adel
 

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