Heating Water with Coal Gas: Calculating Gas Consumption

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gas consumption required to heat 200 liters of water from 100 to 650°C using coal gas, accounting for a 25% heat loss through the chimney. The initial calculations resulted in a net heat requirement of 11,000 calories and a gross heat requirement of 14,667 calories, leading to a gas consumption estimate of 3.4 cubic meters. However, the calculations were critiqued for omitting the specific heat, which is essential for accurate calorie calculations. A proposed method using a false-position approach confirmed the need for 3.4 cubic meters of gas to achieve the desired temperature rise. The conversation emphasizes the importance of unit accuracy and proper formula application in thermodynamic calculations.
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Homework Statement


200 liters of water are heated from 100 to 650C by burning coal gas. The heat loss in the chimney is 25%.
How many cubic meters of gas are needed

Homework Equations


Calories required: Q=mc\delta t
Burning heat of coal gas: 4320[Cal/m3]

The Attempt at a Solution


Net heat needed: Q=200\cdot 55=11,000
Gross heat needed: Q\cdot 0.75=11,000\rightarrow Q=14,667
Gas needed: 4320\cdot x=14,667\rightarrow x=3.4[m^3]
It should be 2.9
 
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You need to show units in all your calculations. It makes your work much easier to follow and analyze for mistakes.
 
Net heat needed: Q=200[kg]\cdot 55^0=11,000[Cal-kg]
Gross heat needed: Q[Cal-kg]\cdot 0.75=11,000[Cal-kg]\rightarrow Q=14,667[Cal-kg]
Gas needed: 4320[Cal/m^3]\cdot x=14,667[Cal-kg]\rightarrow x=3.4[m^3]
It should be 2.9[/QUOTE]
 
You are missing something in the first formula. How can you get Calories by multiplying kg by degrees?
 
And how did the kg vanish again in the third line? This issue will go away once you fix the first line.

What should be 2.9?
 
I mistakenly omitted the specific heat:
Net heat needed: Q=200[kg]\cdot 1[\frac{Cal}{^0\cdot kg}]\cdot 55^0=11,000[Cal]
Gross heat needed: Q[Cal]\cdot 0.75=11,000[Cal]\rightarrow Q=14,667[Cal]
Gas needed: 4320[Cal/m^3]\cdot x[m^3]=14,667[Cal]\rightarrow x=3.4[m^3]
The answer should be 2.9[m3]
 
Your answer is right, IMHO. Let's solve the problem by a false-position approach: we assume that you burn 2 cu. m of gas. The energy obtained is 4320*2 = 8640 Cal. You lose 25% through the chimney, and are left with 8640*0,75 = 6480 Cal. Now, you have 200 liters of water, so with those 6480 Cal, its temperature will rise by 6480/200 = 32,40ºC. But you need a rise of 55ºC, hence you need more gas... Exactly (55/32,4)*2 = 3,4 cu. m...
 
Thanks
 
° is not a unit. Use K instead.
Apart from that, it looks fine (but I really don't like "Cal" for kcal).
 
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