Helium 4 & Photon: Seeping & Propagation

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Helium-4 becomes a superfluid below 2.17 Kelvin, allowing it to seep through glass due to its small molecular size and van der Waals interactions. It can crawl up walls and is often used as a leak detector for vacuum chambers because of its inert nature. The discussion clarifies that while helium can leak as a gas, superfluid helium has unique properties, including a macroscopic quantum phase that enables it to flow without dissipation. The distinction between helium in its gas phase and as a superfluid is emphasized, particularly in the context of leak detection. Understanding these properties is crucial for applications involving superfluid helium.
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When helium 4 is a super fluid can it seep through a glass container , I know it can crawl out of the glass due to the van der walls interaction . But I’ve got mixed answers about the seeping through the glass .
And does a photon propagate through space in a similar way an electron wave propagates through space .
 
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cragar said:
When helium 4 is a super fluid can it seep through a glass container , I know it can crawl out of the glass due to the van der walls interaction . But I’ve got mixed answers about the seeping through the glass .

Helium-4 is only a superfluid when cooled to below its lambda point, 2.17 Kelvin (271 C), at which point it enters the Helium II state, yes it will crawl up walls, yes it can seep through glass. Helium is generally used to test leak rates of vacuum chambers and such because it has such a small molecular diameter and is inert, the only inert substance which will leak thrrough pores or cracks at such a small scale - take a look at healium leak detectors. As you'll know if you've ever had a helium balloon it will leak through the pores in that over time, the same happens with glass, both as a gas or as a superfluid.

Addressing the Helium-4 part - Helium-4 is the most frequent, Helium 3 is quite "rare" and has one neutron, 4 has two neutrons, however they're both stable.
 
thanks for the answer.
 
Raekwon, the use of Helium as a leak detector is because it is inert and very small. However, this is much different than anything having to do with superfluid 4He. It's used to test leaks when it is in the gas phase, but the thing about superfluid, is that it has a macroscopic quantum phase, which allows it to flow without dissipation.
 
nnnm4 said:
Raekwon, the use of Helium as a leak detector is because it is inert and very small. However, this is much different than anything having to do with superfluid 4He. It's used to test leaks when it is in the gas phase, but the thing about superfluid, is that it has a macroscopic quantum phase, which allows it to flow without dissipation.

That's what I said?

Helium is generally used to test leak rates of vacuum chambers and such because it has such a small molecular diameter and is inert

Okay maybe I should have separated it a little, but I meant as the gas - hence just saying Helium rather than State II, that's also why I used a balloon as an example, I'm sure we all know nobody fills balloons with superfluids :P
 
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