Help Applying Norton and Thevin Equivalents

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The discussion focuses on applying Norton and Thevin equivalents to electrical circuits, specifically addressing the challenges faced by beginners. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the distinction between dependent and independent sources when calculating the equivalent resistance (R). It is established that for circuits with independent sources, R can be determined by the ratio of open-circuit voltage to short-circuit current, contrary to misleading information found on Wikipedia. The consensus is that there are no shortcuts; mastering these methods requires practice and familiarity with simpler problems.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Norton’s Theorem and Thevin’s Theorem
  • Familiarity with circuit analysis techniques, including open-circuit voltage and short-circuit current
  • Knowledge of dependent and independent sources in electrical circuits
  • Basic skills in solving electrical engineering problems
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  • Study the derivation and application of Norton’s Theorem in circuits with independent sources
  • Practice solving simpler circuit problems without dependent sources
  • Explore the implications of dependent sources on circuit analysis
  • Review additional resources on circuit simplification techniques
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Electrical engineering students, circuit designers, and anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of circuit analysis methods, particularly in applying Norton and Thevin equivalents.

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I am to find the Thevin and Norton equivalents of the following circuits, my problem being I am new to these method and any help is appreciated also is there any way to simplify this circuit properly?



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I suppose their nothing in this circuit that can conflict with finding my solution such as a "trick"
 
Since you say you're new to these methods, have you worked on simpler problems, like ones without a dependent source? There's generally no trick to solving these problems. You just grind them out.

The Wikipedia page on Norton's Theorem is misleading about how to find R. The page claims you have to use the method of applying a current source to the terminals when there are dependent sources present, but this method is required only when all of the sources are dependent. Your circuit has an independent source, so you can find R by calculating the open-circuit voltage and short-circuit current and finding their ratio.
 
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I think, no one here(including the moderator/administrator) can answer any problem solving related to engineering.
 

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