Help Proof of simple theorems with addition and mulitplication axioms

In summary, the conversation is about a person's struggle with calculus proofs and their attempt at proving the theorem (-1)•a = -a using the Addition and Multiplication Axioms. The person provides their attempts and asks for help and guidance.
  • #1
mgervasoni
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Thanks in advance. 1st day at calculus teacher wants proofs. They seem rudimentary but I've never done them and he doesn't help so I'm hoping someone here could please.

These are the axioms:
Addition:
For a, b, and c taken from the real numbers
A1: a+b is a real number also (closure)
A2: There exist 0, such that 0 + a = a for all a (existence of zero - an identity)
A3: For every a, there exist b (written -a), such that a + b = 0 (existence of an additive inverse)
A4: (a + b) + c = a + (b + c) (associativity of addition)
A5: a + b = b + a (commutativity of addition)
Multiplication:
For a, b, and c taken from the real numbers excluding zero
M1: ab is a real number also (closure)
M2: There exist an element, 1, such that 1a = a for all a (existence of one - an identity)
M3: For every a there exists a b such that ab = 1
M4: (ab)c = a(bc) (associativity of multiplication)
M5: ab = ba (commutativity of multiplication)
D1: a(b + c) = ab + ac (distributivity)


Prove these theorems using the Addition and Mult. Axioms:
Theorem #1: (-1) • a = -a
Theorem #2: if a • b = 0 and a ≠ 0, then b = 0
if a ≠ 0 and b ≠ 0, then a * b ≠ 0
Theorem #3: if a ≠ 0 and b ≠ 0 then 1/a •*1/b = 1/a•b

Here is the example he did in class:
prove a•0=0
line 1 a•0
line 2:A2: a•0+0
line 3:A3: a•0+{a•0+[-(a•0)]}
line 4:A4: {a•0+a•0}+[-(a•0)]
line 5:D1: a•(0+0)+[-(a•0)]
line 6:A2: a•0+[-(a•0)]
line 7:A3: 0

I've never done proofs this way so if anyone has any pointers or ways of thinking about it that would really help. Professor is no help. Thanks guys/girls.
 
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  • #2
mgervasoni said:
Thanks in advance. 1st day at calculus teacher wants proofs. They seem rudimentary but I've never done them and he doesn't help so I'm hoping someone here could please.

These are the axioms:
Addition:
For a, b, and c taken from the real numbers
A1: a+b is a real number also (closure)
A2: There exist 0, such that 0 + a = a for all a (existence of zero - an identity)
A3: For every a, there exist b (written -a), such that a + b = 0 (existence of an additive inverse)
A4: (a + b) + c = a + (b + c) (associativity of addition)
A5: a + b = b + a (commutativity of addition)
Multiplication:
For a, b, and c taken from the real numbers excluding zero
M1: ab is a real number also (closure)
M2: There exist an element, 1, such that 1a = a for all a (existence of one - an identity)
M3: For every a there exists a b such that ab = 1
M4: (ab)c = a(bc) (associativity of multiplication)
M5: ab = ba (commutativity of multiplication)
D1: a(b + c) = ab + ac (distributivity)


Prove these theorems using the Addition and Mult. Axioms:
Theorem #1: (-1) • a = -a
Theorem #2: if a • b = 0 and a ≠ 0, then b = 0
if a ≠ 0 and b ≠ 0, then a * b ≠ 0
Theorem #3: if a ≠ 0 and b ≠ 0 then 1/a •*1/b = 1/a•b

Here is the example he did in class:
prove a•0=0
line 1 a•0
line 2:A2: a•0+0
line 3:A3: a•0+{a•0+[-(a•0)]}
line 4:A4: {a•0+a•0}+[-(a•0)]
line 5:D1: a•(0+0)+[-(a•0)]
line 6:A2: a•0+[-(a•0)]
line 7:A3: 0

I've never done proofs this way so if anyone has any pointers or ways of thinking about it that would really help. Professor is no help. Thanks guys/girls.
Hopefully by now, you know the rules of this Forum.

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, so we can help you.
 
  • #3
Ouch, not the answer I was hoping for. Ok I didn't want to overwhelm you with text since giving all the necessary information is long enough, but here's what I've tried:

line 1:(-1)•a
line 2:a•(-1)
line 3:a•(-1)•(-1)•1
line 4:(-1•1)•(a•1)
line 5:-1•1•1•a+[a+(-a)]

and then I go further down the rabbit hole of wtf, why is it so hard for me to prove -1•a=-a

another attempt:
(-1)•a
(-a)
-a
yay! -a! but that's too easy, and I guess it's not using the axioms. Basically I'm lost and if you could just give me a place to start or a thing to keep in mind it would help. Telling me the rules of the forum is not helping. Trust me, I'm not trying to get anyone to do my homework, I do calc for fun. I just don't understand proofs yet. Please help!
 
  • #4
SammyS said:
Hopefully by now, you know the rules of this Forum.

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, so we can help you.

ok I think I'm on to something.. maybe? so lost so who knows.

(-1)•a=-a
line1: (-1)•a + -a + a axiom of additive inverse
line2: -1•(a+a)+-a associative axiom
line3: -1a+-1a+-a D1
line4: -a axiom of additive inverse again?

Is that right? Can I go from line 3 to line 4? -1a+-1a=0, right? Is there a step I'm missing?
 
  • #5
mgervasoni said:
Ouch, not the answer I was hoping for. Ok I didn't want to overwhelm you with text since giving all the necessary information is long enough, but here's what I've tried:

line 1:(-1)•a
line 2:a•(-1)
line 3:a•(-1)•(-1)•1
line 4:(-1•1)•(a•1)
line 5:-1•1•1•a+[a+(-a)]

and then I go further down the rabbit hole of wtf, why is it so hard for me to prove -1•a=-a
First of all, you're not giving an Axiom number with each step.

Line 3 doesn't follow from Line 2.

another attempt:
(-1)•a
(-a)
-a
yay! -a! but that's too easy, and I guess it's not using the axioms. Basically I'm lost and if you could just give me a place to start or a thing to keep in mind it would help. Telling me the rules of the forum is not helping. Trust me, I'm not trying to get anyone to do my homework, I do calc for fun. I just don't understand proofs yet. Please help!
Here's an idea to get you started down the right path:
Can you show that (-1)•a+a is 0 ? ... using the axioms, of course.​
 
  • #6
SammyS said:
Here's an idea to get you started down the right path:
Can you show that (-1)•a+a is 0 ? ... using the axioms, of course.​

Thanks SammyS. Sigh.. I can't.. When I look at that I just think to Distribute it.

(-1)•a+a=0
...

I just stare at it blankly. Can you give me another hint? Or do you know of a good reference I could read on this subject by any chance? I really appreciate your help. Thank you so much.
 
  • #7
mgervasoni said:
Thanks SammyS. Sigh.. I can't.. When I look at that I just think to Distribute it.

(-1)•a+a=0
...

I just stare at it blankly. Can you give me another hint? Or do you know of a good reference I could read on this subject by any chance? I really appreciate your help. Thank you so much.
Sorry for the delay.

You know that 1•a is the same thing as a, right?

Starting with

(-1)•a+a

M2: (-1)•a+(1)•a

Now factor out a. (That's D1 in the axioms.)

Can you finish it?******************

Now, to show that (-1)•a is the same thing as -a.

Starting with (-1)•a . You can add 0.

(-1)•a + 0 .[STRIKE] a + -a .Then[/STRIKE] Of course a + -a is 0 so:

(-1)•a + (a + -a) , 1•a is the same as also use assoc law.

( (-1)•a + 1•a ) + -a . Now, factor out a, That's D1.

Can you finish? You will need to use that 0•a is 0 , which isn't in an Axiom, but the proof is in your Original Post.

Added in Edit:

I see I had a typo above. I fixed it in red.
 
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  • #8
SammyS said:
Sorry for the delay.

You know that 1•a is the same thing as a, right?

Starting with

(-1)•a+a

M2: (-1)•a+(1)•a

Now factor out a. (That's D1 in the axioms.)

Can you finish it?

Wow thanks. Picking up where you left off:

M2: (-1)•a+(1)•a
D1: a(-1+1)
A3: a•0 using additive inverse. Now I can use Theorem 1 that he proved or write it out:
A2: a•0+0
A3: a•0+{a•0+[-(a•0)]}
A4: (a•0+a•0)+[-(a•0)]
D1: a•(0+0)+[-(a•0)]
A2: a•0+[-(a•0)]
A3: 0


******************
SammyS said:
Now, to show that (-1)•a is the same thing as -a.

Starting with (-1)•a . You can add 0.

(-1)•a + 0 . a + -a . Then is 0 so:

(-1)•a + (a + -a) , 1•a is the same as also use assoc law.

( (-1)•a + 1•a ) + -a . Now, factor out a, That's D1.

Can you finish? You will need to use that 0•a is 0 , which isn't in an Axiom, but the proof is in your Original Post.

D1 a•(-1•1) +-a
Additive inverse: a•0 +-a
Theorem 1: 0+-a
Additive Inverse: -a


Did I do it? Still shaky but feeling much better about it. Thanks a ton Sammy, bless your heart.
 
  • #9
normally, i "work backwards" and when i finish, write my proof "upside-down":

0 = 0 (obvious, right?)
0 = a + (-a) (A3)
0•a = a + (-a) (your "Theorem 1")
(1 + (-1))•a = a + (-a) (using A3 applied to the real number 1)
a•(1 + (-1)) = a + (-a) (M5, because D1 has the sum "on the right")
a•1 + a•(-1) = a + (-a) (D1)
1•a + (-1)•a = a + (-a) (M5 twice, on the left)

now, there is a theorem needed to finish this...it's not a hard theorem, but it is really, really, important:

IF:

c + a = c + b

THEN:

a = b.

well, you may say, this is obvious...we just "subtract c from both sides." there is one small problems with this:

what does it mean to "subtract c" (subtraction is not defined in your axioms)?
 
  • #10
mgervasoni said:
Wow thanks. Picking up where you left off:
...

D1 a•(-1 + 1) +-a    You had -1•1 rather than -1+1 (You also used M5 because you moved a to the left of • .)
Additive inverse: a•0 +-a
Theorem 1: 0+-a
Additive Inverse: -a     This used A2 -- the identity element for addition -- rather than A3 -- the additive inverse .

Did I do it? Still shaky but feeling much better about it. Thanks a ton Sammy, bless your heart.
I put a few comments in red above.

But you did well.
 
  • #11
Deveno said:
normally, i "work backwards" and when i finish, write my proof "upside-down":

0 = 0 (obvious, right?)
0 = a + (-a) (A3)
0•a = a + (-a) (your "Theorem 1")
(1 + (-1))•a = a + (-a) (using A3 applied to the real number 1)
a•(1 + (-1)) = a + (-a) (M5, because D1 has the sum "on the right")
a•1 + a•(-1) = a + (-a) (D1)
1•a + (-1)•a = a + (-a) (M5 twice, on the left)

now, there is a theorem needed to finish this...it's not a hard theorem, but it is really, really, important:

...
This is all well and good. It's an excellent method for seeing your way through what steps are needed ...

but
...

At this point in OP's course, it's apparent that the professor wants the students to work with a string of equivalent expressions; i.e. there are no equations are to be used.
 

1. What are addition and multiplication axioms?

Addition and multiplication axioms are fundamental rules that govern the properties and operations of addition and multiplication. These axioms are used as the basis for proving more complex theorems in mathematics.

2. How do addition and multiplication axioms help with proving theorems?

Addition and multiplication axioms provide a set of basic rules and properties that can be used to manipulate equations and expressions in order to prove more complex theorems. By following these axioms, we can ensure that our proofs are logically sound and valid.

3. Can you give an example of how addition and multiplication axioms are used in proof of theorems?

Sure. For example, one of the addition axioms states that for any real numbers a, b, and c, if a = b, then a + c = b + c. This can be used in the proof of the commutative property of addition, which states that a + b = b + a for any real numbers a and b.

4. Are addition and multiplication axioms the same in all mathematical systems?

No, addition and multiplication axioms may vary slightly in different mathematical systems. For example, in abstract algebra, there are different sets of axioms for addition and multiplication that apply to different algebraic structures such as groups, rings, and fields.

5. Are there any limitations to using addition and multiplication axioms in proof of theorems?

While addition and multiplication axioms are powerful tools in proving theorems, they may have limitations when dealing with more complex mathematical concepts. In some cases, additional axioms or theorems may be needed to prove certain statements or solve certain problems.

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