Help solving a third degree polynomial

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To solve the polynomial equation x^2(4x + 13) = 9, it is first expanded to the standard form 4x^3 + 13x^2 - 9 = 0. The discussion highlights that this cubic equation will have three roots, which can be found using the rational root theorem to identify potential rational solutions. It is noted that while this method is effective, it may not work for all polynomials, particularly perfect cubes, which could complicate finding roots. If the polynomial is a perfect cube, the constant term will indicate the triple root, but this approach may lead back to quadratics for non-cubic cases. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the nature of the polynomial when determining the best method for finding roots.
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Homework Statement



x^2(4x + 13) = 9

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Answers are that x = -3, -1 and 3/4. But how can one compute this other than trial and error?
 
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First step is to try expanding it into the form Ax^3 +Bx^2+Cx+D=0. What do you get when you do this?
 
4x^3 + 13x^2 +0x -9 = 0
 
Okay good, you can get rid of the 0x term though :)

The next step is to recognize that since this is a third degree polynomial, there will be three roots; let's call them x_1, x_2, and x_3. This means that 4(x-x_1)(x-x_2)(x-x_3)=0=4x^3+13x^2-9. Expand the expression on the left. What do you get?
 
If you did not already know the solutions, you could use the "rational root theorem": if x= m/n is a rational number satisfying a polynomial equation then n must evenly divide the leading coefficient and m must evenly divide the constant term.

Here, those are 4 and -9. The integers that evenly divide 4 are \pm 1, \pm 2 and \pm 4. The integers that evenly divide 9 are \pm 1, \pm 3, and \pm 9. That means that the only possible rational roots are \pm 1, \pm 1/2, \pm 1/4, \pm 3, \pm 3/2, \pm 3/4, \pm 9, \pm 9/2, and \pm 9/4. Check each of those to see if one of them satisfies the equation. (And notice that the solutions you give are among those.)

See mathworld.wolfram.com/CubicFormula.html

Of course, there exist cubic equations that have no rational roots. In such a case, you would have to use the (extremely complicated) cubic formula.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Okay good, you can get rid of the 0x term though :)

The next step is to recognize that since this is a third degree polynomial, there will be three roots; let's call them x_1, x_2, and x_3. This means that 4(x-x_1)(x-x_2)(x-x_3)=0=4x^3+13x^2-9. Expand the expression on the left. What do you get?
Hi, gabba just want to make sure I understand your method here. Is it possible that this may not work for some polynomials since we may end up with a cubic equation of a variable say x_1 ? Which of course leads us back to square one.
 
Defennder said:
Hi, gabba just want to make sure I understand your method here. Is it possible that this may not work for some polynomials since we may end up with a cubic equation of a variable say x_1 ? Which of course leads us back to square one.

Yes, you bring up a good point that I had neglected to mention. If the polynomial in question happens to be a perfect cube, then this method won't get you anywhere. However if it is a perfect cube, when you put the polynomial into the form x^3+C_1x^2+C_2x+C_3, the constant term C_3 will be the cube of the triple root as we can see from the fact that (x-a)^3=x^3-3ax^2+3a^2x-a^3.
 
But is this guaranteed to work if the polynomial isn't a perfect cube ? ie. One would only have to work with quadratics at most ?
 
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