Help! Troubleshooting Logic to Find Mass on Vertical Spring

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a vertical spring and the calculation of mass needed to stretch the spring a specific distance, utilizing the spring constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods to calculate the mass required to stretch the spring, with some focusing on work-energy principles while others suggest using Hooke's law directly.

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Some participants have provided guidance on alternative approaches, with one suggesting the use of Hooke's law instead of work calculations. There is an acknowledgment of different reasoning paths taken by the original poster and others.

Contextual Notes

Participants question the assumptions regarding how the mass is applied to the spring, emphasizing the need for clarity on whether the mass is added gently or dropped from a height.

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Okay,

I am messing something up here. I think it's my logic.

Given k=2.5 * 10^3 N/m

Find how much mass would have to be suspended from the vertical spring to move it 6.0 cm

I get W=1/2kx^2=.5(2500)*(.06m)^2=4.5J
I think that's right.

Then I do
W=F*d=m*a*d or m=W/a*d=4.5/(9.8m/s^2 / .06 m)=7.65 kg
But that's not the answer.

Help?
 
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Look up Hooke's law and the meaning of k.

Note: I assume the question is asking for the mass that would--if gently added to the spring, not dropped from a height--stretch the spring by the given amount.
 
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Why are you using work, it would be much easier to use one of Hooke's laws;
[tex]F = - kx[/tex]

Can you arrive at the correct answer using this?

[Edit] It seems Doc Al got there before me, damn he's so quick! :mad: [Edit]
 
Oh, so

F=kx
m*9.8=2500 * .06=150/9.8= 15 kg

I got it. Man, I sure went abot that the completely wrong way.

thanks
 

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