Help with a 2nd order PDE involving mixed derivatives

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The discussion focuses on solving a second-order partial differential equation (PDE) involving mixed derivatives, specifically the equation involving an auxiliary field r = r(u, v). The author proposes using the method of characteristics and introduces intermediary fields ρ and ȳ to transform the PDE into a system of first-order equations. The equation is identified as hyperbolic, suggesting that characteristics are a viable solution method. The author seeks validation of their approach and explores alternative methods, including the potential use of Riemann functions.

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I have a PDE in two variables, [itex]u[/itex] and [itex]v[/itex], which takes the form

[itex] \frac{\partial\psi}{\partial u\hspace{1pt}\partial v} + \frac{1}{r}\left(\frac{\partial r}{\partial u} \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial v} + \frac{\partial r}{\partial v}\frac{\partial\psi}{\partial u}\right)[/itex]

for an auxiliary field [itex]r=r(u,v)[/itex]. It would be nice to have this equation in a form that is amenable to the method of characteristics, as there are independent evolution equations for [itex]r[/itex] in both directions. My first idea was to define some intermediary fields [itex]\rho = r\partial_v\psi[/itex] and [itex]\tilde{\rho} = r\partial_u\psi[/itex], then write down the wave equation as

[itex]\partial_u(r\rho)+\partial_v(r\tilde{\rho}) = \rho\partial_u r + r\partial_u\rho + \tilde{\rho}\partial_vr+r\partial_v\tilde{\rho} = 0.[/itex]

Then, making the ansatz

[itex]-\left(\rho\partial_u r + r\partial_u\rho\right) = \tilde{\rho}\partial_vr+r\partial_v\tilde{\rho} = \gamma = \text{const.}[/itex]

one arrives at a system of four first-order equations along characteristics: two for [itex]\psi[/itex] and one each for [itex]\rho[/itex] and [itex]\tilde{\rho}[/itex]. (Initial data is free for the last two fields along the characteristic for which it lacks an evolution equation.)

My question is, does this seem reasonable or is there a better method for approaching this problem?
 
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There are a number of things that you can do, the equation that you have written down is a hyperbolic equation, so characteristics are a possibility, the use of a Riemann function may also be of some use here as well.
 

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