Help with a Series RL network and Power factor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a homework problem related to a series RL network operating at 60 Hz, where participants are tasked with finding the power factor, apparent power, and reactive power based on given values of resistance and inductance, along with the supplied real power.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to determine the power factor and the angle θ, suggesting that they believe it can be calculated using the relationship between real power and apparent power.
  • Another participant explains that the power factor is the cosine of the angle between current and voltage waveforms, and suggests finding the impedance in polar form to determine this angle.
  • A different participant calculates the current using the formula P = (I^2)R, arriving at a current of 5.15 A, and then computes the impedance and apparent power, ultimately finding a power factor of 0.707, indicating it is lagging.
  • One participant mentions using the power triangle to relate the impedance triangle to find apparent and reactive powers, suggesting a geometric approach to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to approach the problem, but there are variations in the specific calculations and interpretations of the relationships between power, current, and impedance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the calculations and methods used by the participants.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of understanding complex impedance and the relationship between resistance and reactance, but there are no explicit corrections or consensus on the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement


In a 60 Hz series RL network, the source is supplying 400 W of real power. If R = 15.08 Ω and L = 40 mH, find
a. The power factor. (Indicate if it is leading or lagging)
b. The apparent power supplied.
c. The reactive power supplied.


Homework Equations


None were given


The Attempt at a Solution


Ive been trying to google about power factor and reading up on it for quite some time, but I am still stuck. I know I can get PF by taking cosθ, but I am unsure of how to find θ for this particular problem. I believe it can be done by taking cos^(-1) (Real Power/Apparent Power), but again I was not sure of how to find apparent power.

I guess the biggest problem for me so far is been trying to relate the 60Hz to the rest of the problem. If someone could give me a hint on this I would greatly appreciate it. I had a funeral to attend to so I missed the class discussing most of these things, and its been difficult trying to read up on it online. Any help is appreciated!
 
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Khesahn said:

Homework Statement


In a 60 Hz series RL network, the source is supplying 400 W of real power. If R = 15.08 Ω and L = 40 mH, find
a. The power factor. (Indicate if it is leading or lagging)
b. The apparent power supplied.
c. The reactive power supplied.


Homework Equations


None were given


The Attempt at a Solution


Ive been trying to google about power factor and reading up on it for quite some time, but I am still stuck. I know I can get PF by taking cosθ, but I am unsure of how to find θ for this particular problem. I believe it can be done by taking cos^(-1) (Real Power/Apparent Power), but again I was not sure of how to find apparent power.

I guess the biggest problem for me so far is been trying to relate the 60Hz to the rest of the problem. If someone could give me a hint on this I would greatly appreciate it. I had a funeral to attend to so I missed the class discussing most of these things, and its been difficult trying to read up on it online. Any help is appreciated!

The power factor is the cosine of an angle. This angle is the offset between the current and voltage waveforms. As such, it also happens to be the angle of the impedance vector. If you find the impedance of the series circuit in polar form, the resulting angle will be the one you want. Find its cosine.

If you are as yet unfamiliar with complex valued impedance, then the same can be accomplished using resistance and reactance. Form the impedance triangle with resistance on the base leg and reactance on the vertical leg. The legs make a right angle. The angle of the hypotenuse (the impedance Z) with the resistance leg is the angle you're after.

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I was working on this a bit more after doing some research and this is what I've found.

P=(I^2)R, using my values gives me √(400/15.08)= I, which is I = 5.15A.

Using the equation Z= √(R^2 + (ωL)^2) = Z = √(15.08^2 + (120∏*.040)^2) = Z = 21.33Ω.

I then use Apparent Power = (I^2)Z which gave me App. Power = 565.72 VA.

I used PF = (Real Power)/(App. Power) which gave me .707 and its lagging.

I then used the PF to find θ≈45°.

I used Reactive Power = 400 tan(45) to see Rea. Power = 400VAR.

I believe I was doing this correctly, do you all see anything that might have gotten me to be doing this incorrectly? Again, the equations and methods I am using are based off researching from google. The assignment is due tonight so I don't have a lot of time to make sure I am doing this correctly.

Thanks again!
 
You've found a path to the correct values, so that's fine.

My own approach would have been to use the given resistor and inductor values to calculate the impedance first, and then take the power factor angle directly from that. With the angle in hand, the power triangle is similar to the impedance triangle (in the geometric sense) and so the apparent and reactive powers are simple to find.
 

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