Help with air resistance in projectile motion

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on calculating air resistance for tank projectiles, specifically addressing the challenges faced by a student named Andrew. He seeks practical equations or software for analyzing air drag without relying on complex wind tunnel data. A suggested resource is a spreadsheet from the University of Virginia, which requires a drag coefficient that Andrew lacks. The conversation emphasizes the importance of approximating drag coefficients based on similar projectile shapes and experimenting with values to match observed ranges.

PREREQUISITES
  • Basic understanding of calculus and physics principles related to projectile motion
  • Familiarity with drag coefficients and their significance in ballistic calculations
  • Knowledge of online ballistic calculation tools and spreadsheets
  • Ability to interpret technical documents related to projectile design
NEXT STEPS
  • Research methods for estimating drag coefficients for various projectile shapes
  • Explore the use of computational fluid dynamics (CFD) for more accurate air resistance modeling
  • Learn how to utilize the University of Virginia's projectile spreadsheet effectively
  • Investigate alternative ballistic calculation software that accommodates variable drag coefficients
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, engineers working on projectile design, and anyone involved in the analysis of air resistance in ballistics.

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I need some help doing very basic mathematical analysis (what would be expected of a Calculus 1 and current Physics 1 student) for my project about tank projectiles, anything to calculate something about their air resistance/air drag, yet everything I have found has either been too simple (drag not proportional to velocity squared) or way too complex (involving wind tunnel test data, which I don't think I'm collecting anytime soon). Any equations or online ballistic calculation software will do, one of my teachers suggested this spreadsheet (http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/581/ProjectilesExcel.html, go to the bottom and click download the spreadsheet), which looked promising until I realized that the drag coefficient b was a pr-entered number. I don't have much numerical data about each projectile (here is an example http://www.imi-israel.com/vault/documents/105-mm%20hesh-t%20m156_en_draft-04.pdf ). Is there anything that any of you know of that can help me?
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Andrew
 
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You probably not be able to get the drag coefficient unless you have some wind tunnel or cfd data which doesn't seem like for tank munitions. Your best bet is to find something with a similar shape and use the drag coefficient of that shape as an approximation. So if someone has already developed a spreadsheet that will do what you need then you should probably use it.
 
RandomGuy88 said:
You probably not be able to get the drag coefficient unless you have some wind tunnel or cfd data which doesn't seem like for tank munitions. Your best bet is to find something with a similar shape and use the drag coefficient of that shape as an approximation. So if someone has already developed a spreadsheet that will do what you need then you should probably use it.

In the spreadsheet I don't believe it makes any mention of the projectile shape though, and my project incorporates different styles of projectiles which probably have different drag coefficients. Thank you for your response though.

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Actually the calculus teacher just suggested that I play with the drag coefficient and try to edit in numbers until the x distance traveled is equal to the range that I gathered for that projectile type.
 
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