Help with convergence/divergence

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The discussion revolves around the convergence and divergence of various infinite series, particularly focusing on alternating series and the application of convergence tests such as the ratio test and the integral test.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the use of the ratio test and alternating series test to determine the convergence of specific series. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of logarithmic expressions and the conditions under which series converge or diverge.

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Some participants have confirmed the conditional convergence of certain series based on the alternating series test, while others are questioning the validity of their interpretations and the implications of different convergence tests. There is an ongoing exploration of various series and their properties without a clear consensus on all points.

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Participants are discussing the convergence of series under specific conditions, with some expressing uncertainty about the definitions and implications of convergence tests. The conversation includes references to homework constraints and the need for clarification on certain mathematical expressions.

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Sigma (-1)^n / (ln n)^n

First I start using the ratio test (because I want to test if it's absolutely conver. or conditionally conver.), then I get the limit = 1 so it's inconclusive by the ratio test.
But from the alternating series test, it's convergent. So it's conditionally convergent.

Is my process right?
 
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limit absolute value of nln(n)/ (n+1)(ln(n+1))
--->n/(n+1) so the limit is 1.
 
yes you are correct. it is conditionally convergent, because it satisfies the alternating series test but fails the ratio test.
 
As you've written it in the first post, [itex](\ln(n))^n\neq n \ln(n)[/itex], it's [itex]\ln(n^n)= n \ln(n)[/itex]. Which did you mean?
 
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sigma n=1 to infinite 1/(n*ln(n))
sigma n=1 to infinite (-1)^n /(n*ln(n))

The second one is convergent, how about the first one? It's convergent as well?
 
To StatusX,
Find the limit for absolute value of nln(n)/ (n+1)(ln(n+1))
I cross out ln(n) on the top with the ln(n+1) at the bottom, so it left with n/(n+1). Do you mean this one?
For the first one, ln(n)^n is at bottom. So it's same as nln(n).
 
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n\ln n}[/tex].

Use the integral test.[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{n\ln n}{(n+1)(\ln(n+1))} = 1[/tex]
 
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I see. It's divergent for the second one but is convergent for the first one because of Alternating series test.

Thanks a lot.
 
Here's another question.

Sigma n=1 to infinity (-1)^(n-1)/n^p

For what values of p is serie convergent?

I have p>0, can p be 0 in this case?
 
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I'm saying there's a difference between [itex](\ln(n))^n[/itex] and [itex]\ln(n^n)[/itex], and the one you've written in you're first post is not equal to [itex]n \ln(n)[/itex].
 
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[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n-1}}{n^{p}}[/tex]. p can't be 0, because then [tex]a_{n}[/tex] wouldn't be decreasing, and it would fail the alternating series test. Thus [tex]p>0[/tex].
 
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To StatusX,
I see what you mean now.
Let me re-do my problem.
Thanks by the way.
 
  • #13
For [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^{n} }{(\ln n)^{n}}[/tex], you could use the root test. So it is absolutely convergent.
 
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Thank you.
Here's a question I don't understand.

Suppose that sigma n=0 to the infinity Csubn*x^n converges when x=-4 and diverges when x=6. What can be said about the convergence or divergence of the following series?

a) Sigma n=0 to infinity Csubn
.....

Can someone give me a hint on this one?
 
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Thanks. But I'm not sure if I get the concept.
 
  • #17
a)con.
b)div.
c)con.
d)div.
 
  • #18
yeah that's right
 
  • #19
I sort of get the concept...but not exactly sure. Thank you so much though.
 
  • #21
I don't think so, because [tex]a_{n}[/tex] is not decreasing.
 
  • #22
Yeah. That's right.
How do you do the integral 2 to infinity lnx/x^2?
Integration by parts?
 
  • #23
yeah int by parts
 

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