Help with Hi Power LED Resistors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of selecting appropriate resistors for high-power LEDs in a project. Participants explore resistor calculations, alternative driver options, and the implications of using resistors versus constant current drivers for powering LEDs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates resistor values for two high-power LEDs, suggesting 4.7 Ohm and 8.2 Ohm resistors with specific wattage ratings based on current requirements.
  • Another participant points out that the calculated wattage for the resistors may be incorrect, noting that 4.7 Ohms with 0.7 amps would dissipate 2.3 watts, which raises concerns about the initial calculations.
  • There is a suggestion to use multiple lower wattage resistors in parallel and series configurations to achieve the desired resistance and power rating.
  • A recommendation is made to consider switch mode buck supplies for better efficiency and performance, along with links to potential driver options for the LEDs.
  • One participant questions the feasibility of using a single driver for both LEDs in series, given the different power ratings and voltage requirements.
  • Another participant confirms that the driver data sheet indicates the possibility of using LEDs in series, provided the input voltage exceeds the total LED voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of using resistors versus constant current drivers, with no consensus reached on the best approach for powering the LEDs.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved calculations regarding resistor wattage ratings and the efficiency of the proposed solutions. The discussion also highlights the dependency on specific voltage supplies and the limitations of using resistors in high-power applications.

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I have a project with two, separately wired high-power LEDs.

LED #1 is a 1 watt LED rated at 3-4 Vdc at 350/700 mA
LED #2 is a 3 watt LED rated at 2 Vdc at around 350/700 mA

According to Resistor calculations, I get:

LED #R1 = 4.7 Ohm, 2 Watt rating (for 700 mA)
LED #R2 = 8.2 Ohm, 4 Watt rating (for 700 mA)

The problem is I can't find any online vendor that sells common resistors at these specs. Am doing the calculations wrong to arrive to 2 and 4 watt rating or is there a vendor out there that sells these? Alternatively, is there a unique type of resistor that I can substitute for these ratings?

Thanks for any info.
 
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4.7 ohms with 0.7 amps flowing in it will dissipate 2.3 watts, so that seems a bit off, for a start.

What supply voltage are you using?

The 8.2 ohm resistor would dissipate 4 watts, but you would always allow a bit extra.

If you could get half watt 8.2 ohm resistors, you could put 4 at a time in parallel and then put 4 of these banks in series.
So four 8.2 ohms in parallel = 2.05 ohms
Then 4 of these in series gives 8.2 ohms but at 8 watts.

I know it is only a few watts, but these circuits are very inefficient. At this level, you probably should be looking at swtch mode buck supplies. The following is an example, but may not be the best around:
http://www.simplecircuitdiagram.com/2010/02/11/wide-input-voltage-range-high-power-led-driver/
This would give you immunity from supply variations as well as reduced current consumption from the supply. Maybe you could go to Maxim's website and get the data sheet for the MAX774 device.
 
Thanks for the reply. I'm planning to drive with 6 AA batteries (7.2 V). It's been recommended that I use a constant LED driver instead of resistors. I found several 3W drivers rated for 3W LEDs powered by 3-12 Vdc, but I can't find 1W LED drivers that can be powered by anything below 12 V. Unless it's possible to get away with using one 3W driver to power both LEDs in series?

Here are links to two of them I found:
http://bit.ly/90UmKV
and
http://ledsupply.com/03023-d-n-700.php

Thanks

vk6kro said:
4.7 ohms with 0.7 amps flowing in it will dissipate 2.3 watts, so that seems a bit off, for a start.

What supply voltage are you using?

The 8.2 ohm resistor would dissipate 4 watts, but you would always allow a bit extra.

If you could get half watt 8.2 ohm resistors, you could put 4 at a time in parallel and then put 4 of these banks in series.
So four 8.2 ohms in parallel = 2.05 ohms
Then 4 of these in series gives 8.2 ohms but at 8 watts.

I know it is only a few watts, but these circuits are very inefficient. At this level, you probably should be looking at swtch mode buck supplies. The following is an example, but may not be the best around:
http://www.simplecircuitdiagram.com/2010/02/11/wide-input-voltage-range-high-power-led-driver/
This would give you immunity from supply variations as well as reduced current consumption from the supply. Maybe you could go to Maxim's website and get the data sheet for the MAX774 device.
 
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I looked at the data sheet for the second one. It shows LEDs in series. (see P5)

The only limit is that the input voltage must be higher than the total voltage of the LEDs. This should not be a problem.

They talk about 95% efficiency, so if you got anywhere near that you would be much better off.
 

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