Help with integral (pretty easy but my brain is stuck)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the arc length of the polar curve defined by r = θ for the interval 0 < θ < 2π. Participants are examining the integral ∫√(θ² + 1) and exploring methods for solving it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use trigonometric substitution to evaluate the integral but expresses confusion at a specific step involving the integration of sec³(t). Some participants suggest breaking down the integral further and consider different substitution strategies.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions and clarifications. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance has been provided regarding the integral's structure and potential substitutions.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need for clarity on whether the integral should include the differential dθ, indicating a possible misunderstanding in the setup. Additionally, the original poster notes a lack of confidence due to being early in the semester.

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Homework Statement



This is to find the arc length of r= \theta from 0 < \theta < 2pi

I ended up with \int\sqrt{\theta^2 + 1}

Homework Equations



\int\sqrt{\theta^2 + 1}


The Attempt at a Solution



I couldn't see a relevant way to do integration by parts so I went with trig substitution, subbing tan(t) for theta. I got lost at the point where I'm to integrate sec^3(t)dt.

Can anyone help? Am I on the right track?

 
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Looks good to me.

\int\sec^{3}tdt

Let's start by breaking secant to the cube.

\int\sec t\sec^2 tdt

Which would you make u and dV?
 
homestar said:

Homework Statement



This is to find the arc length of r= \theta from 0 < \theta < 2pi

I ended up with \int\sqrt{\theta^2 + 1}

Homework Equations



\int\sqrt{\theta^2 + 1}
You actually mean \int\sqrt{\theta^2+ 1} d\theta don't you?


The Attempt at a Solution



I couldn't see a relevant way to do integration by parts so I went with trig substitution, subbing tan(t) for theta. I got lost at the point where I'm to integrate sec^3(t)dt.

Can anyone help? Am I on the right track?

Homework Statement


Looks to me like a pretty standard integral. Let \theta= tan(x) so that d\theta= sec^2(x) dx and \sqrt{\theta^2+ 1}= \sqrt{tan^2(x)+ 1}= sec(x). Then
\int\sqrt{\theta^2+ 1}d\theta= \int sec^3(x)dx= \int \frac{1}{cos^3(x)}dx
= \int\frac{cox(x)}{cos^3(x)}dx= \int\frac{(cos(x)dx)}{(1- sin^2(x))^2}

and the substitution u= sin(x) converts to a rational integral:
\int \frac{1}{(1-u^2)^2}du[/itex]<br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2>[/QUOTE]
 
ahhhh...thank you. it's relatively early in the semester and i may have partied too hard over winter break ;)
 

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