Help with resistor power dissipation homework

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to calculating the average power dissipated in a resistor within a circuit involving diodes and a transformer. Participants explore the integration needed to solve the problem, the waveform characteristics, and the effects of the diodes on the voltage across the resistor.

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  • One participant presents the problem and seeks help with integration to find the average power dissipated on the resistor.
  • Another participant requests that the original poster show their work to facilitate assistance.
  • A participant provides their current understanding of the waveform and notes the voltage drop across the diodes, indicating uncertainty about the current.
  • A suggestion is made to consider the sinewave period in terms of angle and to perform symbolic integration instead of numerical calculations.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the correct approach to squaring the voltage across the resistor, emphasizing the need to account for the diode voltage drop before squaring.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the clarification and notes the helpfulness of the diagram.

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Participants generally agree on the need for a clear understanding of the waveform and the integration process, but there is no consensus on the exact method to approach the integration or the specifics of the current calculation.

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Some assumptions about the ideal transformer and the characteristics of the diodes are made, but these are not fully explored or validated in the discussion.

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Students working on circuit analysis, particularly those dealing with power dissipation in resistors and the effects of diodes in AC circuits.

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This question is in reference to the diagram here:
http://imageshack.us/f/17/ecediagram.jpg/

Find the average power dissipated on the resistor.
Assume Vth for the diodes is 1V, N1 = 1000, N2 = 100, the transformer is ideal (non-lossy), and V(t) is a purely sinusoidal voltage with frequency of 50 Hz and amplitude of 100V.

I've tried working it out several times, but I can't figure out exactly what to integrate. Thanks for your help!
 
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Hi thepcphysicia, welcome to PF.

You'll need to show some attempt at the problem before we can give you any help. Have you determined the waveform of the voltage (or current) that will appear across R1?
 
Hi,

Here is my work thus far:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/photo2la.jpg/

The waveform of the voltage is given by 10*sin(100pi*t). I think that it is squared, because P=V^2/R.

The waveform is also shifted down two due to the voltage drop across the diodes.

Not sure about the current.
 
Anybody? The assignment is due in a few hours...
 
You might want to consider the period of the sinewave in terms of angle rather than time, and do the integration symbolically rather than carrying all those decimals around and fiddling with the milliseconds and their fractions. Then the period of a cycle is just [itex]1/(2\pi)[/itex], and you can call the "turn-on angle" for the the diodes [itex]\phi[/itex], given by:
[tex]10V sin(\phi) = 2V[/tex]

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The voltage that appears across the resistor R1 is shown in the diagram. In your proposed solution you made it [itex](10 sin(stuff))^2 - 2)[/itex], but that's not quite right; The 2V needs to be taken from the sin() before squaring occurs.
 

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Awesome, thank you SOOO much! The diagram was incredibly helpful!
 

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