Medical Herbs vs Chemicals: Which is Better for Treating Illness?

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The discussion centers around the efficacy of herbal treatments compared to conventional medicine, sparked by a debate between an herbalist and a doctor. Key points include the notion that herbs do not lead to immunity build-up like pharmaceuticals, which is contested. The claim that herbal remedies address root causes while conventional medicine focuses on symptoms is dismissed as unfounded. Concerns about safety highlight that herbal treatments can be unpredictable due to variable chemical compositions, unlike standardized pharmaceuticals. The argument also critiques the philosophy that natural substances are inherently better than synthetic ones, pointing out that many natural substances can be harmful. Additionally, the conversation references pharmacognosy, the study of medicinal plants, and acknowledges the historical use of herbs in traditional medicine systems like Chinese medicine, which has developed over centuries. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the complexities and risks associated with both herbal and conventional treatments.
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The other night I had two friends at the house for a gathering. One is an herbalist and the other is some sort of doctor, I'm not sure of his specific job title. However that is not important. These two began to bicker about medical techniques. In your opinion are herbs a better way to treat something or is normal medicine better. I do have a few other questions which I will list below.
Is it true that it is impossible for your body to build up immunity to herbs like it can with medicine?
I've heard that most medicines treat the symptom but not the cause, herbs work the opposite way. Is this true?
Is it more dangerous to use herbs or chemicals to treat something?
 
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Mars_eclipse said:
The other night I had two friends at the house for a gathering. One is an herbalist and the other is some sort of doctor, I'm not sure of his specific job title. However that is not important. These two began to bicker about medical techniques. In your opinion are herbs a better way to treat something or is normal medicine better. I do have a few other questions which I will list below.
Is it true that it is impossible for your body to build up immunity to herbs like it can with medicine?

I don't know of any magic plants. But some plants contain medically useful chemicals.

I've heard that most medicines treat the symptom but not the cause, herbs work the opposite way. Is this true?

It's rubbish.

Is it more dangerous to use herbs or chemicals to treat something?

Now you are contrasting chemicals with chemicals.
 
first of all, Mars, i think herbalists are a little goofy in general. their whole philosophy revolves around natural=good, synthetic=bad. and I'm not against herbal in general. i think if someone wants to use ephedra instead of ephedrine sulphate, that should be their right. but that mormon tea might not agree with some people because of the mix of chemicals in it.

some others, like say yohimbe, are definitely worse in herbal form. if you take yohimbine bark, you'll actually get a very "dirty" response with more nausea and anxiety symptoms than if you'd just taken yohimbine HCl. this is because yohimbe, like ephedra, contains a mix of alkoloids, making the receptors they target more broad and less specific.


as for doctors, they've got their faults as well. i don't think it's drugs themselves that treat symptoms-not-disease these days, it's the doctors themselves. i don't know if it's simply a lack of time, critical thinking, or too much hubris, but the problem is there.
 
Herbs are chemicals. You just do not know as well what chemicals are present. In a processed product the chemical content is very well known and held to strict standards. There are no standards among plants. The concentration of any specific chemical in the plants make up can vary from crop to crop and even plant to plant. There is a lot of variability, so if not knowing what you are taking is good then herbs are very good indeed.
 
Proton Soup said:
their whole philosophy revolves around natural=good, synthetic=bad.
Yeah, I have always found that philosophy rather silly too. After all, botulin toxin, poison ivy, anthrax, ebola, etc. are all natural too.
 
Are you familiar with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacognosy" ? This is an entire branch of pharmacy studying plants that have useful medicinal properties.
It is my understanding (from a botanical perspective), that herbal medicinals do contain many known pharmaceutically active compounds, but in lower concentration than their chemically synthesized counterparts.
In Chinese culture, their medicinal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_herbs" is widely practiced and has developed over many centuries. Some items, such as use of ginseng, date back a couple thousand years.
 
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