High School calculus problem, basic for some, need a little help

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y=(3x+4)^5/(2x^2-3x)^6, which involves calculus concepts such as the product rule and chain rule. Participants are examining the steps taken to derive the answer and whether the simplifications made are accurate.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the product and chain rules to differentiate the function, expressing concern about the accuracy of their calculations and the final answer. Some participants question the correctness of the original answer provided and discuss the implications of factoring and simplification steps.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on each other's reasoning and calculations. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original answer, with some suggesting that more than one factor may have been incorrectly simplified. The conversation remains open, with no explicit consensus reached on the final answer.

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Some participants note confusion regarding the application of the product rule versus the quotient rule, and there are indications of missing information or miscommunication about the steps taken in the differentiation process.

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Find the derivative of y=(3x+4)^5/(2x^2-3x)^6



Some how the answer is simplified to 3x(6x^2-59x+24)/(2x-3)^7, I don’t know if I just copied it down wrong or I’m doing it incorrectly. Some assistance would be nice.

I changed the equation to y=(3x+4)^5*(2x-3x)^-6 and used the product rule/ chain rule

(3x+4)^5[-6(2x^2-3x)^-7(4x-3)]+(2x^2-3x)^-6[5(3x+4)^4(3)]

This simplified into
(-24x+18)(3x+4)^5divided by(2x^2-3x)^7 + 15(3x+4)^4 divided by (2x^2-3x)^6

Multiplying 15(3x+4)^4 divided by (2x^2-3x)^6 by (2x^2-3x) to the bottom and top get a common denominator
Which made it:
[(-24x+18)(3x+4)^5]+[(3x+4)^4(30x^2-45x)] all over (2x^2-3x)^7

At which point I took out the (3x+4)^4 which made it to:

((3x+4)^4) [(3x+4)(-24x+18)+(30x^2-45x] all over (2x^2-3x)^7

After foiling and simplifying the inside of the brackets I got

(3x+4)^4) (-72x^2-87x+72) taking out the three my final answer being:

3(3x+4)^4 (-14x^2-29x+24) all over (2x^2-3x)^7

I understand that in the answer they must have taken out an x at the bottom

Sorry if my steps are a little confusing. Did I do it right or did I miss an important piece?
 
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the -14x^2 in my final answer should be -24, but yeah that does not change much.
 
Your answer looks good to me. They took more than an x out of the bottom. (2x^2-3x)^7=x^7*(2x-3)^7. I think their answer is simply wrong.
 
5 hours between your first and third posts? Do you expect people to be sitting around waiting for you to post a problem?

iceman99 said:
Find the derivative of y=(3x+4)^5/(2x^2-3x)^6



Some how the answer is simplified to 3x(6x^2-59x+24)/(2x-3)^7, I don’t know if I just copied it down wrong or I’m doing it incorrectly. Some assistance would be nice.

I changed the equation to y=(3x+4)^5*(2x-3x)^-6 and used the product rule/ chain rule
Okay, that's a good idea. I have always preferred that to the quotient rule.

(3x+4)^5[-6(2x^2-3x)^-7(4x-3)]+(2x^2-3x)^-6[5(3x+4)^4(3)][\quote]
What does this have to do with the product rule? (fg)'= f'g+ fg'.
Here f= (3x+ 4)^5 so f'= (3)(5)(3x+4)^4= 15(3x+4)^4. f'g= 15(3x+4)^4(2x-3x)^(-6). g'= -6(2x^2- 3x)(4x-3) so fg'= 6(2x^2-3x)(4x-3)(3x+4)^5

This simplified into
(-24x+18)(3x+4)^5divided by(2x^2-3x)^7 + 15(3x+4)^4 divided by (2x^2-3x)^6

Multiplying 15(3x+4)^4 divided by (2x^2-3x)^6 by (2x^2-3x) to the bottom and top get a common denominator
Which made it:
[(-24x+18)(3x+4)^5]+[(3x+4)^4(30x^2-45x)] all over (2x^2-3x)^7

At which point I took out the (3x+4)^4 which made it to:

((3x+4)^4) [(3x+4)(-24x+18)+(30x^2-45x] all over (2x^2-3x)^7

After foiling and simplifying the inside of the brackets I got

(3x+4)^4) (-72x^2-87x+72) taking out the three my final answer being:

3(3x+4)^4 (-14x^2-29x+24) all over (2x^2-3x)^7

I understand that in the answer they must have taken out an x at the bottom

Sorry if my steps are a little confusing. Did I do it right or did I miss an important piece?
 
No, I do not expect people to be waiting around for me to post a problem; I was merely annoyed that no one had replied in my five hours.

Rather than the quotient rule is all I meant by my phrase.
 
In my g, I forgot the square so it should be (2x^2-3x)^-6
and consequently would make g’=-6(2x^2-3x)^-7(4x-3) correct?
 
I wasn't checking all of the steps, but "3(3x+4)^4 (-14x^2-29x+24) all over (2x^2-3x)^7" is what I got.
 
Ok, thank you very much, I must have written the answer down incorrectly.
 
iceman99 said:
Ok, thank you very much, I must have written the answer down incorrectly.

I'm quoting what you wrote down.
 

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