Homework Equations: Solving for Voltage

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The discussion focuses on solving homework equations related to AC circuits, specifically calculating voltage, current, and impedance using formulas for inductors and capacitors. Key equations include XL = ωL for inductive reactance, XC = 1/ωC for capacitive reactance, and Z = sqrt(R^2 + (XL - XC)^2) for total impedance. Participants express uncertainty about calculations, particularly regarding the correct application of these formulas and the phase angle. Clarifications are made about the series and parallel configurations of components and the implications for impedance calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding AC circuit behavior and the correct use of formulas for voltage and current.
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Homework Equations


XL = ωL
XC = 1/ωC
Z= sqrt(R^2+(XL-XC)^2)
∅ = tan^-1(XL-XC/R)

The Attempt at a Solution



A) a)
Irms = Vrms/R = 100 V/400 Ω = .25 A
b) 1) V= Vrms =100 V
2) V = IrmsXL = IrmsωL = (.25)(1000)(.9) = 225 V
3) V= IrmsXC = Irms/ωC = (.25)/((1000)(2E-6)) = 125 V
4) this part I am not sure how to do.
5) V = IrmsZ = Irmssqrt(R^2+(XL-XC)^2) = (.25)sqrt(400^2 + (900 - 500)^2) = 141 V

c) ∅=tan^-1(XL-XC/R) = tan^-1(400/400) = 45°
it is positive so voltage leads

B) a) ω = 1/sqrt(LC) = 1/sqrt(.9(2E-6)) = 745 rad/sec
b) 1) still 100 V
2) V = IrmsXL = IrmsωL = (.25)(745)(.9) = 168 V
3) V = IrmsXC = Irms/ωC = (.25)/((745)(2E-6)) = 168 V
4) ?
5) V = IrmsZ = IrmsR = .25(400) = 100 V I am not entirely confident I did all of these right. feedback would be greatly appreciated
 
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your part a is wrong. I=V/Z, with Z being the impedance of the circuit. Since it is an AC waveform, the inductor and capacitor will have some impedance
 
so part a) would be I = V/Z = V/ sqrt(R^2 + (XL-XC)^2) = 100/sqrt(400^2 +(1000(.9-2E-6))^2) = .1 A ?

also would I be able to do part 4 using the formula V = IZ where the R in the formula for Z is set to 0?
 
toothpaste666 said:
so part a) would be I = V/Z = V/ sqrt(R^2 + (XL-XC)^2) = 100/sqrt(400^2 +(1000(.9-2E-6))^2) = .1 A ?

also would I be able to do part 4 using the formula V = IZ where the R in the formula for Z is set to 0?
No.

What have you learned about AC circuits and inductors and capacitors?
Have you learned about the laplace transform yet?
 
I haven't heard of the laplace transform. Both of the things I said are wrong? I am still wrong about part a) ?
 
the resistance at any given frequency for these purposes can be seen below
inducotor: w*L
capacitor: 1/(w*L)

now the inductor, capacitor,and resistor... are they in series or parallel?
 
donpacino said:
the resistance at any given frequency for these purposes can be seen below
inducotor: j*w*L
capacitor: 1/(j*w*L)

now the inductor, capacitor,and resistor... are they in series or parallel?
 
they are in series
 
yup, so to find the total impedance, you add them together
 
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I = V/Z = V/ sqrt(R^2 + (XL+XC)^2)
?
so when they are in parallel it is
1/XL + 1/XC ??

My book says XL-XC where does this come from?
 
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toothpaste666 said:
I = V/Z = V/ sqrt(R^2 + (XL+XC)^2)
?
so when they are in parallel it is
1/XL + 1/XC ??

My book says XL-XC where does this come from?
somehow I missed your equations page. oops

I forgot you haven't really learned that much about AC so they gave you the equations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_plane

There are two ways to express complex numbers, polar and rectangular notation.
sqrt(R^2 + (XL+XC)^2) essentially converts the rectangular notation to the magnitude of polar notation
and ∅ = tan^-1(XL-XC/R) converts it to the angle of polar notation
 
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in that case, the second answer you gave is correct
 
  • #13
the .1 A is correct for part a) ?

For part 4) is this a case where the Voltage oscillates?
 
  • #14
toothpaste666 said:
the .1 A is correct for part a) ?
yes
toothpaste666 said:
For part 4) is this a case where the Voltage oscillates?
do you mean finding the phase angle??
if yes then look at your equation for theta
 
  • #15
I mean to find the voltage across the LC part of the circuit (If I am understanding the question correctly)
Originally I was thinking of using the equation for Z with R = 0 or
Z = sqrt((XL-XC)^2)
and then using
V = IZ
 
  • #16
I am still trying to figure this out. Is this one of the cases where I have to use the formula for oscillating voltage? V=v0coswt ?
 
  • #17
recall each part has an impedance. you know what the impedance is

V=I*Z
 
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