Homogeneous Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around the concept of homogeneous differential equations, particularly focusing on the criteria that define such equations. Participants explore examples and definitions, questioning the conditions under which an equation is classified as homogeneous.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of homogeneous differential equations, with some suggesting that the presence of variables in both the numerator and denominator is sufficient for homogeneity. Others clarify that the powers of the terms must be consistent across the equation. The "a" test for homogeneity is also debated, with questions about its application to constants.

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The conversation is active, with multiple interpretations of the criteria for homogeneity being explored. Some participants provide guidance on the "a" test, while others raise questions about specific examples and their classification as homogeneous or not.

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Participants are navigating through definitions and examples, with some expressing uncertainty about the application of the homogeneity test to various equations. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles rather than reaching a definitive conclusion.

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I read that the 'Homogeneous Differential Equation' is one which has form [tex]\frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} = f\left(\frac{y}{x}\right)[/tex] but I came across one example which was [tex]\frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} = \frac{x+y}{x+5y}[/tex] and said that is 'Homogeneous Differential Equation' Too which has 'x' and 'y' in both numerator and denominator. Does that mean that 'x' and 'y' exist in numerator and denomintor, then it's 'Homogeneous Differential Equation'?
 
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If I remember correctly, the easiest way to see if an equation is homegenous is to add up the powers of the individual terms, and if they are all the same, then the equation is homogenous and y=Vx substitution can be used.
 
No, it doesn't. The important thing here is that every term in both numerator and denominator has x or y to the same power. One test for homogeneous equations, that probably is in your textbook, is to replace x and y by "ax" and "ay" respectively. If the "a" cancels out, then the equation is homogenous.
That is, dy/dx= f(x,y) is "homogeneous" if f(ax,ay)= f(x,y). In your case,
[tex]f(x,y)= \frac{x+ y}{x+ 5y}[/tex]
[tex]f(ax,ay)= \frac{ax+ ay}{ax+ 5ay}= \frac{a(x+ y)}{a(x+ 5y}= \frac{x+ y}{x+ 5y}= f(x, y)[/tex]

That means the if you divide both numerator and denominator by x, you get
[tex]dy/dx= \frac{1+ \frac{y}{x}}{1+ \frac{5y}{x}}[/tex]
Now, the substitution [tex]u= y/x[/tex] leads to y= xu so dy/dx= x du/dx+ u and the equation becomes
[tex]x du/dx+ u= \frac{1+ u}{1+ 5u}[/tex]
so
[tex]x du/dx= \frac{1+ u}{1+ 5u}- u= \frac{1+ u- u- 5u^2}{1+ 5u}= \frac{1- 5u^2}{1+ 5u}[/tex]
a separable equation in x and u.

But
[tex]dy/dx= \frac{y+ 1}{x- 2}[/tex]
for example, is not homogeneous. (It is, by the way, separable.)

[tex]dy/dx= \frac{x+ y}{x+ y+ 1}[/tex]
is neither homogenous nor separable.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, it doesn't. The important thing here is that every term in both numerator and denominator has x or y to the same power. One test for homogeneous equations, that probably is in your textbook, is to replace x and y by "ax" and "ay" respectively. If the "a" cancels out, then the equation is homogenous. That is, dy/dx= f(x,y) is "homogeneous" if f(ax,ay)= f(x,y).

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But
[tex]dy/dx= \frac{y+ 1}{x- 2}[/tex]
for example, is not homogeneous. (It is, by the way, separable.)

The 'a' test, you can only put 'a' infront of 'x' and 'y' but not in front of the constant? Am I correct?

So...[tex]dy/dx= \frac{ay+ 1}{ax- 2}[/tex]

And Not...[tex]dy/dx= \frac{ay+ a1}{ax- a2}[/tex] which would lead to 'a' cancelling out.
 
The requirement is f(x,y)=f(ax,ay), so let f(x,y)=x+y+1, then f(ax,ay)=ax+ay+1. So you don't put a in front of terms, but you replace every x and y with ax and ay.
 

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