Hooke's law vs. Elastic potential energy

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The discussion centers on a problem involving a 13.2-kg mass compressing a spring by 5.93 cm, leading to two different calculations for the spring constant using elastic potential energy (EPE) and Hooke's law. The EPE approach yields a spring constant of 4451.9 N/m, while Hooke's law results in 2225.96 N/m. The discrepancy arises from the interpretation of the compression distance; if the 5.93 cm represents the distance after dropping the weight, the EPE method is valid, but it complicates practical applications. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding equilibrium versus dynamic scenarios in spring mechanics. Ultimately, clarity in interpreting the problem's conditions is crucial for accurate calculations.
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I am currently learning about elastic potential energy and this is a question that was given to us by my teacher:

When a 13.2-kg mass is placed on top of a vertical spring, the spring compresses 5.93 cm. Find the force constant of the spring.

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To solve this question he used total mechanical energy (ME= GPE+ EPE+ KE)and the conversion of the energy from GPE to EPE (as the object falls down it's energy changes from GPE to EPE and the KE is 0 because the final and initial velocities are zero.)
Because this is a conserved system then ME =0
ΔGPE=-ΔEPE
then he substituted the given into the equations: (13.2)(10) (0-0.0593)=-1/2 (k) (0.0593^2-0^2)
k= 4451.9 N/m

However by using Hooke's law (which I got from the internet- In class we still didn't take hooke's law and all what we know about springs...(elastic) is from EPE equation.): F=kx the force here is Fg=(13.2)(10)=132 132=k(0.0593) k=2225.96 N/m

So my question is why are the answers diffrent what is missing in either of these ways??
 
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I think the problem is interpreting what is meant by
**Mariam** said:
the spring compresses 5.93 cm
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I would agree with you that it is more straightforward to use Hooke's law to determine the spring constant in practice. Think about the set up: you place some weights on a spring and slowly lower the spring so that it doesn't bounce around. The spring stretches and you know, by Newton's third law that k x = m g. when the spring is in equilibrium.

What happens if you just add some weight to a spring and then drop it? The spring stretches beyond equilibrium and then begins to oscillate about the (new) equilibrium.

So if you interpret
**Mariam** said:
the spring compresses 5.93 cm

to mean that 5.93 cm is the distance the spring compresses when the weight is dropped then the teacher's approach is valid, though much less practical. I'm sure this was just an exercise in applying conservation laws.
 
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