How are apparently 'continuous' blackbody spectra formed?

In summary: Basically, yes, at least for the photons emitted from the surface, the ones we see. There are other things going on in the Sun's interior that involve photons; it's actually fairly complicated to analyze how the energy released in fusion reactions in the Sun's core ends up as energy in the radiation emitted from its surface.
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Analysing the blackbody spectra of the Sun appears to produce the standard blackbody curve. My understanding off the mechanics behind this is that the electrons in each atom have a discrete number of energy levels and therefore a discrete number of energy level transitions. This would mean that there is a discrete number of wavelengths which could be emitted by the sun, especially since the sun is mainly hydrogen and helium. How is it that the sun's spectra can appear continuous?
My understanding of this is based upon the assumption that energy level transition is the only mechanism responsible for blackbody photons.
 
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argon1120 said:
My understanding of this is based upon the assumption that energy level transition is the only mechanism responsible for blackbody photons.

It isn't. In fact, for the Sun this mechanism is negligible, since it's a plasma, which is composed of separate electrons and ions, not neutral atoms.

Even for an ordinary solid object, composed of neutral atoms, energy level transition is not the only mechanism by which photons can be emitted. Atoms in solids can vibrate in various ways without changing the energy levels of any of their electrons, and these vibrations can cause photons to be emitted.

When scientists want to examine the specific frequencies of radiation due to energy level transitions in atoms, they use a vapor of the appropriate substance in order to eliminate, as much as possible, other possible sources of radiation.
 
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PeterDonis said:
It isn't. In fact, for the Sun this mechanism is negligible, since it's a plasma, which is composed of separate electrons and ions, not neutral atoms.

Even for an ordinary solid object, composed of neutral atoms, energy level transition is not the only mechanism by which photons can be emitted. Atoms in solids can vibrate in various ways without changing the energy levels of any of their electrons, and these vibrations can cause photons to be emitted.

When scientists want to examine the specific frequencies of radiation due to energy level transitions in atoms, they use a vapor of the appropriate substance in order to eliminate, as much as possible, other possible sources of radiation.
Thank you, that makes a lot of sense!

In the context of the sun is it the motion of charged particles which generate photons?
 
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In the context of the sun is it the motion of charged particles which generate photons?

Basically, yes, at least for the photons emitted from the surface, the ones we see. There are other things going on in the Sun's interior that involve photons; it's actually fairly complicated to analyze how the energy released in fusion reactions in the Sun's core ends up as energy in the radiation emitted from its surface.
 
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Well, a photon created, in whatever way, in the interior of the sun needs about ##10^5 \; \text{yr}## to get out of the sun. The spectrum is basically a black-body spectrum, which is continuous, because it's thermal radiation. The spectrum gets modified, however, due to absorption in the gas around the Sun, leading to the Fraunhofer lines which let's us analyze precisely what the Sun is made of. Among other things also He has been discovered first in this way (that's why it's called Helium).
 

1. What is a blackbody spectrum?

A blackbody spectrum is the characteristic spectrum of an object that absorbs all incident electromagnetic radiation. It is a continuous spectrum that depends only on the object's temperature and is independent of its composition.

2. How are blackbody spectra formed?

Blackbody spectra are formed when an object is heated and emits electromagnetic radiation. The emitted radiation has a continuous spectrum of wavelengths and intensities, which is determined by the object's temperature.

3. What factors affect the shape of a blackbody spectrum?

The shape of a blackbody spectrum is affected by the object's temperature and its composition. Higher temperatures result in a higher proportion of shorter wavelengths, while the composition of the object affects the relative intensities of different wavelengths.

4. What is the significance of blackbody spectra in astronomy?

Blackbody spectra are important in astronomy because they allow us to determine the temperature of celestial objects. By analyzing the shape of a blackbody spectrum, we can determine the temperature of stars, planets, and other objects in space.

5. How do blackbody spectra relate to the laws of thermodynamics?

The shape of a blackbody spectrum is determined by the laws of thermodynamics, specifically the laws of thermal radiation. These laws dictate that all objects above absolute zero temperature emit electromagnetic radiation, and the shape of this radiation follows a specific pattern based on the object's temperature.

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