How Are Photonic Crystals Analogous to Matter Waves?

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Photonic crystals exhibit properties that affect the motion of photons, creating photonic band gaps similar to how semiconductor crystals influence electron motion through electronic band gaps. Both systems demonstrate wave-like behaviors, with allowed and disallowed modes based on their respective wavelengths. The analogy to matter waves arises when considering two-dimensional photonic crystals in the microwave regime, where their behavior can reflect the principles of de Broglie's wave-particle duality. However, the discussion highlights confusion regarding the direct relationship between photonic crystals and matter waves, suggesting that simpler examples, like electron diffraction, might clarify the concept. Ultimately, the connection lies in the comparison of band structures in both photonic and electronic systems.
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I understand the concept of matter waves. Light has wave-particle duality; it has both wave-like (electromagnetic wave) and particle-like (photons) properties. Similarly, according to de Broglie, all particles (electrons, protons, etc.) have a wave-like property, with their momentum (where momentum = mass x velocity) related to their de Broglie wavelength through the equation:

\lambda = \frac{h}{p}

Photonic crystals affect the motion of electrons. Electromagnetic waves can be propagated through a photonic crystal lattice structure, and through considering the frequencies of these electomagnetic waves at points within the Brillouin zone, it is possible to compose graphs showing the respective electronic band gaps.

What I don't get is how photonic crystals are analogous for matter waves? :confused:
 
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jbox23 said:
I understand the concept of matter waves. Light has wave-particle duality; it has both wave-like (electromagnetic wave) and particle-like (photons) properties. Similarly, according to de Broglie, all particles (electrons, protons, etc.) have a wave-like property, with their momentum (where momentum = mass x velocity) related to their de Broglie wavelength through the equation:

\lambda = \frac{h}{p}

Photonic crystals affect the motion of electrons. Electromagnetic waves can be propagated through a photonic crystal lattice structure, and through considering the frequencies of these electomagnetic waves at points within the Brillouin zone, it is possible to compose graphs showing the respective electronic band gaps.

What I don't get is how photonic crystals are analogous for matter waves? :confused:

This post is very confusing.

Where do you get the idea that photonic crystals are analogous for matter waves?

Photonic crystals affect the "motion" of photons! That's why they are call photonic crystals, rather than electronic crystals. Photonic crystals have photonic band gaps, as opposed to electronic band gaps.

I do not see the connection with "matter waves".

Zz.
 
It is possible to consider two-dimensional photonic crystals in the microwave regime as analogies for matter waves.

I am aware that photonic crystals affect the motion of photons in a similar way that semiconductor crystals affect the motion of electrons. Photons (behaving as waves) either do or do not propagate through the photonic crystal structure depending on their wavelength. Wavelengths of light that are allowed to travel are known as modes, and groups of allowed modes form bands, and disallowed bands of wavelengths are photonic band gaps. Similarly the periodic potential in a semiconductor crystal affects electron motion by defining allowed and forbidden electronic energy bands.

So I guess the two things are analogous through the comparisons that can be made between photonic band gaps and electronic band gaps, but I'm not sure.
 
I'm sorry, but why are you going through all this convoluted example just to simply find an analogous scenario to demonstrate matter waves? What about simply use an electron diffraction experiment as a much more transparent example of matter waves?

Zz.
 
I'd just like to know and understand how to relate these two things (photonic crystals & matter waves)
 
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