The Connection Between Planck Units and the Uncertainty Principle

In summary, the Planck scale is where Quantum Mechanics and Gravity collide, and where their predictions are expected to fail one way or the other. At the Planck scale, particles with a Planck mass are so heavy and so confined that they would collapse under their own gravity.
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Temporarily Blah
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I know that Planck Time is the amount of time it takes light to cross Planck Length, but how did they figure out Planck Length?

What are all the Planck units, how large are they, and how were they figured out?
 
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If i am not wrong Planck units are calculation constants, of which part of the constant is Planck constant itself. like h/2pi, is what they call h bar. with a small diagonial stroke at the top left of "h"

Like Light year, the value of the constant is pretty much suggested in the name itself
 
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Planck length is the square root of Planck Area, which in turn is extracted from Newton gravitational constant. I think that the units were first suggested by Planck himself in 1899.
 
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Temporarily Blah said:
I know that Planck Time is the amount of time it takes light to cross Planck Length, but how did they figure out Planck Length?

What are all the Planck units, how large are they, and how were they figured out?

The Planck scale is there where Quantum Mechanics and Gravity collide and
where their predictions are expected to fail one way or the other.

Quantum Mechanics:

Heisenbergh's uncertainty relation connects mass and scale.
To be confined into a smaller and smaller area the mass of a particle needs to
be higher and higher. The radius of the confinement area is the Compton
radius
of the particle.

Gravity:

When an object (say a star) is compressed more and more there will be a
radius when it will collapse under it's own gravity an become a black hole.
This radius is called the Schwarzschild radius. This radius becomes larger
when the mass increases.

Planks Scale:

Going back to particles. We have a radius which increases with mass
(Schwarzschild) and a radius which decreases with mass (Compton). The two
meet at the Planck scale. Particles with Plancks mass are so heavy and so
confined that they would collapse under their own gravity.


Planck mass _________ 2.17645e-8 kg
Planck length _______ 1.61624e-35 m
Planck time _________ 5.39121e-44 s
Planck temperature __ 1.41679e32 K



Regards, Hans

For the math, see for instance: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/planck/node2.html
 
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Thank you all. ^_^
 
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To Hans:

How does one get the uncertainty relation between mass and scale ?
Is it derivable from time-energy, position-momentum or number-phase UR´s ?
 
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DaTario said:
To Hans:

How does one get the uncertainty relation between mass and scale ?
Is it derivable from time-energy, position-momentum or number-phase UR´s ?

There's no really "correct" way of doing this, but mostly a relation like E=pc
is used to connect [itex]\Delta E \Delta t[/itex] and [itex]\Delta p \Delta x[/itex]. This then also leads to the relation of
Plancks length and Planks time ([itex] l_P = c\ t_P [/itex] )

For an estimated radius of the proton of 10-15m this leads to an energy
of ~ 200 MeV which was once used by Yukawa as an estimate of the mass
for his hypothetical carrier of the strong nuclear force.

You see it sometimes used as an argument to estimate the mass of the proton
at at least 600 meV (= 3x the mass of a (quark) confined to 10-15m )


Regards, Hans
 

1. How did Max Planck come up with the concept of Planck units?

Max Planck was a German physicist who introduced the concept of Planck units in 1899. He was trying to find a way to unify the fundamental constants of nature, such as the speed of light, gravitational constant, and Planck's constant. Through his calculations, he discovered that there were natural units of measurement that could be derived from these fundamental constants, which he named after himself.

2. What is the significance of Planck units in modern physics?

Planck units are significant because they provide a universal system of measurement that is based on fundamental physical constants. This allows for simpler and more elegant equations in the study of physics, as well as potentially leading to a more unified understanding of the universe.

3. How are Planck units related to quantum mechanics?

Planck units are closely related to quantum mechanics because they were first introduced in the study of black holes and the quantum properties of matter and energy. They are used to describe the smallest scales of the physical world and are crucial in understanding the behavior of particles at the quantum level.

4. Are there different types of Planck units?

Yes, there are different types of Planck units, each derived from a different fundamental constant. These include the Planck length, Planck time, Planck mass, Planck temperature, and Planck charge. Each unit represents the maximum or minimum value of its respective quantity in the universe.

5. How are Planck units useful in the study of cosmology?

Planck units are useful in cosmology because they provide a way to measure and understand the early universe, where the laws of physics may have been different. They also play a role in theories of quantum gravity, which aim to unify the theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics. Additionally, they are used in calculations of the properties of black holes and the Big Bang.

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