How Can Electric Fields Accelerate Ions in Solution?

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Electric fields can indeed accelerate ions in solution, such as Na+ and Cl- ions from dissolved salt, but the effectiveness is limited by the ions' short mean free path due to frequent collisions in the medium. Applying a strong electric field in a circular chamber may not yield significant acceleration because any gains would be quickly negated by these collisions. The discussion also touches on the potential for charge separation in the presence of a magnetic field, referencing concepts like the "double layer" and "Wien effect." There are established methods for ion separation that may be more efficient than using electric fields in solutions. Overall, the complexities of ion behavior in solutions have been extensively studied, indicating that simpler techniques may be preferable for practical applications.
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Hello everybody ,

We know it is possible to accelerate ions through electric field , this is in case of " Gas Ions " ...

But , when we put some salt ( i.e : NaCl salt ) in water , we get Na+ ions and Cl- ions also ,

If we made a circular chamber containing this solution and applied electric field ,

Would the ions able to be accelerated in the solution ?
 
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What do you think is the mean free path of such ions in those types of mediums?

Zz.
 
I think it is very very small , but it just an idea ...

Assumed we have a lot of electrical energy , is that possible ?
 
Mohamed Nedal said:
I think it is very very small , but it just an idea ...

Assumed we have a lot of electrical energy , is that possible ?

But what's the point of doing that? With a mean free path that is so short, what you gain in acceleration is destroyed by just a single collision in a very short amount of time. Why do you think our accelerators are typically in ultra-high vacuum conditions?

Zz.
 
yes I know , It is just an idea ... :)

Let's look in another way , we have this solution and there is a magnetic field applied on ...

So , a separation for charges ( Ions ) will occur , and we can get electricity from this process , right ?
 
Google for "double layer" and "Wien effect".

That's just to give you some starting point so that you can educate yourself and don't waste your time reinventing the wheel. What happens in the solutions when the electric field is applied is researched for quite long. Hardly surprising.
 
When did "magnetic field" come into play here?

There are already simpler ways to separate ions, I'd that is what you are after.

I'm checking out of this one since I have zero clue on what this is all about.

Zz.
 
Can you list some of those ways , if you don't mind ?
 
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