How Can I Calculate Crystallite Size from XRD Patterns?

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The discussion revolves around calculating crystallite size from X-ray diffraction (XRD) patterns, with references to other techniques such as Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM) and Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM). Participants explore the use of the Scherrer equation and clarify the differences between crystallite size and particle size.

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Main Points Raised

  • Rasputin inquires about calculating particle size, mentioning the Scherrer equation as a common technique used in XRD, TEM, and SEM.
  • One participant clarifies that XRD provides crystallite size while SEM provides particle size, indicating these are distinct measurements.
  • Another participant emphasizes the limitations of SEM in resolving atomic scale details, suggesting that TEM is necessary for such measurements and noting the indirect nature of observations made with these techniques.
  • A new participant expresses a desire to learn about crystallite size determination from XRD patterns, specifically in the context of researching zeolites.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the distinction between crystallite size and particle size, but there is no consensus on the best methods for measurement or the implications of using different techniques.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the understanding of the techniques involved, particularly concerning the resolution capabilities of SEM versus TEM and the indirect nature of the measurements obtained.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for researchers and students interested in crystallography, materials science, and the analysis of zeolites using XRD techniques.

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Hello everybody!

I have a question: how can I calculate the particle size?

It is common technique which called Scherrer equation used by XRD, it is also used TEM and SEM images, but I want be sure with my calculations and not to trust only to mentioned techniques.

Thank you for your answers.

Rasputin.
 
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Dear Rasputin,

From XRD u will get crystallite size , and from SEM particle size. Bothe are two different entities.

About sherrer formula, it is basic and fundamental. U can refer
AZAROFF & BUERGER, The Powder Method in X-ray Crystallography.

If this won't solve ur problem we will discuss.
 
mahixs said:
Dear Rasputin,

From XRD u will get crystallite size , and from SEM particle size. Bothe are two different entities.
Last time i checked the SEM resolution does not allow you to scale down up to the atomic scale. To do that, you need TEM. Also, keep in mind that individual atoms are not depicted directly. this violates the HUP ! What we observe using the above mentioned techniques, is the consequence (ie emitted radiation etc) of the interactions between apparatus and specimen ! One does not just "take a picture of an atom". We only observe atomic scale phenomena indirectly !

marlon
 
Hi buddies I am new to this forum
I came to the forum serching for crystallite size determination form XRD Patterns
I am new to reserch and do not posses any special knowledge on PXRD right now i am working on Zeolites and the only tool is PXRD i am eager to learn about it and want every information which can be obtained form it ie crystallite size, stacking faults, etc.
 

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