How can I cut out 60hz reception from transformer?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the issue of 60Hz hum interference in an amplifier setup, specifically related to the electromagnetic field of a transformer. Participants explore various methods to mitigate this interference, including adjustments to wiring and transformer placement, as well as considerations for power supply design.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the 60Hz hum is likely due to the electromagnetic field of the transformer and suggests using trimpots to reduce the hum, albeit at the cost of some volume.
  • Another participant proposes that transformer orientation and reducing the size of the receiving loop through techniques like twisting wires may help mitigate the hum.
  • A different participant mentions that moving the transformer could potentially cancel out a ground loop that might be contributing to the hum.
  • One contributor indicates that they have successfully reduced the hum by shortening the input wire configuration but acknowledges the need to lower the amplifier's gain for better sound quality.
  • Another suggestion is to operate the amplifier on battery power to determine if the hum persists, which could indicate an issue with the power supply.
  • A participant recommends a diagnostic test involving touching an input lead with a screwdriver to identify the source of the hum, while cautioning about safety practices in amplifier design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various strategies to address the hum issue, but there is no consensus on a singular solution. Multiple competing views and approaches remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the potential influence of ground loops and the need for careful design in power supply smoothing, but these aspects remain unresolved and depend on specific configurations.

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I just made an amp for a friend giving about 30 watts x2. but it is in a small project box and I am receiving 60hz coming into the input of the amps.
I have done tests and it is the EM field of the transformer, I have 2 trimpots on the inputs to the amplifier and have been able to cut out this hum but not without losing some volume along with it.
Is there any quick and easy way to fix the hum?
 
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Transformer orientation can sometimes help. Not sure about mu-metal at 60Hz (I've used it for crosstalking audio transformers).

For the EM field to cause hum it needs to be induced into a loop somewhere. Maybe you can reduce receiving loop size. Twisting wires , etc.

It's possible that there is 60 Hz in a ground loop and moving the transformer cancels it out?

I'm just saying what comes to mind, of course.
 
yes thank you, I have been able to cut most out by shortening the input wire configuration, but when I make amps I set the amplifiers gain very high and have a trim-pot on the input because you will get MUCH better sound quallity when amplifying small signals, so I am just going to lower the gain a bit ,

thanks.
 
do you have any picture of your box amplifier setup?

I have build a few too and usually it's not that the transformer is not filtered enough it is that the field of the transformer literally induces the frequency to the amplifier and so there is this buzz.
Basically there are either two things , put the transformer further away or make a cage for it.Basically that doesn't help much atleast in my case.
 
You might try operating your amp on battery to see if the hum is still there. If so, it's probably in the power supply. Also try shorting the inputs to see if it goes away.
 
To check if it really is getting onto the input to the amp, touch one of the input leads with a screwdriver while holding the metal part. It the hum gets louder, that's where it's getting in. If nothing changes, you probably need to redesign your power supply to improve the smoothing.

Note, that test assumes your amp is designed and built following good safely practices - I take no responsibility for what happens to you if it's not!
 

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