How can I integrate x^3sqrt(x^2+4)?

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The problem involves integrating the expression x^3√(x^2+4), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss substitution methods, particularly using u^2 = x^2 + 4, and explore the implications of this substitution on the integral. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the substitution and the resulting expressions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on substitution techniques and addressing confusion about the steps taken. There is acknowledgment of different ways to express the final answer, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their substitutions and the expected form of the answer, highlighting the complexity of the integration process.

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Integrate x^3sqrt(x^2+4)




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I have no idea how to substitute this integral in my favor. Can someone please set me on the right track? Thanks
 
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Substitute u^2=x^2+4. It's actually not so bad.
 
Thanks for the help Dick.

I did what you suggested but I didn't quite get the correct answer.

Here are my steps:

[tex]\int[/tex]x^3[tex]\sqrt{(x^2+4)}[/tex]dx = [tex]\int[/tex](x^3(x^2+4))dx/[tex]\sqrt{(x^2+4)}[/tex]

u^2 = x^2+4 ; du = xdx/[tex]\sqrt{(x^2+4)}[/tex]

[tex]\int[/tex]x^2u^2du

x^2 = u^2 - 4

[tex]\int[/tex] (u^2-4)u^2du
= 1/5 (x^2+4)^5/2 - 4/3(x^2+4)^3/2 + c
 
Starting from [itex]\int x^3 (x^2 + 4)^{1/2}dx[/itex]

make all your substitutions, using
u^2 = x^2 + 4 ==> x^2 = u^2 - 4 ==> x = (u^2 - 4)^(1/2)
and udu = xdx

Your integral [itex]\int (u^2 - 4) u^2 du[/itex] shows that you have not substituted correctly. You should get two terms in u, both with fractional exponents.
 
I'm sorry but I'm really clueless.
What step in my substitution did I do wrong?
 
charbon said:
I'm sorry but I'm really clueless.
What step in my substitution did I do wrong?

You didn't do anything wrong. Your answer is right. But there are other ways to write the answer. What answer are you expecting?
 
charbon said:
I'm sorry but I'm really clueless.
What step in my substitution did I do wrong?
Your work is correct - it's mine that is in error. Sorry for giving bad advice.
 
Thank you both very much. The answer they give is [1/15(x^2+4)^3/2](3x^2-8) + c
 
charbon said:
Thank you both very much. The answer they give is [1/15(x^2+4)^3/2](3x^2-8) + c

Just factor (x^2+4)^(3/2) out of both terms in your solution to get a form like that.
 

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