How can I represent this circuit in state space?

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The discussion focuses on representing a given circuit in state space, highlighting difficulties in deriving two equations for x'1 and x'2 despite having established Kirchhoff's equations for the loops and junction. The user has identified voltage and current relationships but struggles to formulate them into a usable state-space representation. Suggestions include expressing equations in terms of known values and inputs rather than just components. The importance of clarity in circuit schematic representation is also emphasized. Overall, the conversation aims to assist in overcoming the challenges of state-space representation in circuit analysis.
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I have this circuit and I must represent it in state space. I know the process because I have done similar ones but having trouble with this one. I have found the Kirchhoff equtations for the 2 loops and for the upper juction, whatever I do after I can't end up to two equations x'1 and x'2.

  • First loop: V(t)=V(R1)+V(c1)+V(R2)
  • Second loop: V(R3)+V(c2)=V(R2)+V(c1)
  • Junction: i(t)=i(R3)+i(c1) or i(t)=i(c2)+i(R2) => i(c1)=i(R3)+i(t) and i(c2)=i(R2)+i(t)
I know that V(C1)=x1 ,and V(c2)=x2 and i(c1)=c1*x'1 , i(c2)=c2*x'2

http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/uploaded_files/21768/circuit.bmp
 
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Emmanouel said:
I have this circuit and I must represent it in state space. I know the process because I have done similar ones but having trouble with this one. I have found the Kirchhoff equtations for the 2 loops and for the upper juction, whatever I do after I can't end up to two equations x'1 and x'2.

  • First loop: V(t)=V(R1)+V(c1)+V(R2)
  • Second loop: V(R3)+V(c2)=V(R2)+V(c1)
  • Junction: i(t)=i(R3)+i(c1) or i(t)=i(c2)+i(R2) => i(c1)=i(R3)+i(t) and i(c2)=i(R2)+i(t)
I know that V(C1)=x1 ,and V(c2)=x2 and i(c1)=c1*x'1 , i(c2)=c2*x'2

http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/uploaded_files/21768/circuit.bmp

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can you post a circuit schematic...

You need to get your equations in terms of known values, such as inputs and component values.
example. if you want to find the voltage across a resistor 2, instead of saying V(source)-V(resistor_1)-V(resistor_2)=zero, say V_out=V_in*R_1/(R_1+R_2)

does that make sense?
 
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