How can I solve this tricky integral in my differential equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific differential equation, y' = (x+y)/(x-y), and the challenges faced in integrating a particular expression derived from it. The focus is on techniques for integrating a complex integral that arises in the process.

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  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the integral ∫((1-z) dz)/(1+z²) and mentions a substitution attempt that did not resolve the issue.
  • Another participant suggests using the substitution y = t·x, indicating that the differential equation is homogeneous.
  • A different participant proposes separating the fraction into two parts for easier integration, noting that the numerator can be expressed as a sum of two fractions.
  • One participant recommends a trigonometric substitution, specifically z = tan(u), as a potential solution method.
  • A participant questions the definition of z in the original post and reiterates the suggestion to split the z-integral for easier integration, implying that one part may be found in integral tables.
  • The original poster acknowledges the suggestions and expresses intent to try both the trigonometric substitution and the splitting method, indicating a willingness to report back on progress.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants offer various methods for tackling the integral, but there is no consensus on a single approach. Multiple competing views and techniques remain under consideration.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the definition of z, which may affect the integration process. Additionally, the steps for integration and the effectiveness of the proposed methods are not fully resolved.

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I've been trying to solve differential equation:

[tex]y' = \frac{x+y}{x-y}[/tex]

I came to the point where I got following integrals:

[tex]\int \frac{(1-z) \cdot \,dz}{1+z^2} = \int \frac{dx}{x}[/tex]

The integral on the left side is the problem. I tried substitution:
[tex]t = 1+z^2[/tex]
but I always end up with one dz left in the numerator.

I did the differential equation with numerator and denumerator inversed without problems, but I'm stuck on this one and I have a feeling that I can't figure out a trivial thing.

Any hints?

Thanks for help!
 
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Try substitution y = t·x right at the beginning. (it's an homogeneous differential equation)

EDIT: Sorry for my stupidity. You already did. I'm trying to integrate your expression right now.
 
OK. Try separating the fraction into two fractions and integrating them separetly (you have two summands at the numerator, so you can express that as the sum of two separated fraction with the same denominator).
 
seems that a trig substitution would work.. have you tried z=tan(u)?
 
What's the definition of z in the OP?

In any event, splitting the z-integral into two parts makes it rather easy to integrate, as suggested by marksman95. You should be able to find one integral in a table of integrals and the other integral can be solved by substitution.
 
Thanks for help people. I will try both the trig substitution and by splitting the integral, and see what I will get. I will notice you on how it went. Thanks again.
 

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