How can I use a pressure sensor to detect drum hits for my lighting rig?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to detect drum hits using various sensors for a lighting rig. Participants explore different sensor types, including pressure sensors, microswitches, and alternative approaches, while considering the technical requirements and challenges involved in the implementation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a pressure sensor, noting that it could detect the pressure pulse generated by the bass drum hit, but emphasizes the need to find a sensor that does not absorb too much impact.
  • Another participant proposes using a microswitch on the drum pedal as a straightforward solution, highlighting its simplicity and effectiveness.
  • Some participants mention alternative methods, such as using a laser beam reflected off a mirror on the drum surface to trigger a light sensor.
  • There are suggestions to use a microphone with filters to detect the bass drum sound, but concerns are raised about interference from other instruments, like a bass guitar.
  • A participant mentions a specific force-sensing resistor (FSR) and questions whether its pressure range would be suitable for detecting drum hits without affecting sound quality.
  • Another participant discusses the idea of using a pressure transducer and the need to interface it with a microcontroller, suggesting that the output might need scaling.
  • Some humorous suggestions include unconventional ideas like hiring a roadie or using a child inside the drum to operate a switch.
  • Concerns about the durability of microswitches under heavy drumming are raised, with suggestions for building a more robust switch or using flexible wiring to prevent breakage.
  • Additional ideas include using a photodiode and LED setup to detect pedal movement, with a mechanism to block the light when the pedal is pressed down.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the best method to detect drum hits, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Various approaches are debated, and preferences for simplicity versus complexity are noted.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for careful consideration of sensor placement and the potential for interference from other sounds, as well as the importance of ensuring that chosen solutions do not compromise the sound quality of the drum.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY electronics, musicians looking to integrate lighting with performance, and those exploring sensor applications in music technology may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
hardyboy16jm said:
I just realized sort of a problem with some of the suggestions (obviously not any ones fault but mine for forgetting to mention this)
When drummers play, the pedal doesn't always go back to starting point since we keep our foot on the pedal. i also sometimes try to keep the beat by slightly moving my foot which makes the pedal move, but not necessarily hit the drum. There are also times, where I actually keep the beater of the pedal touching to drum.
I also sometimes hit the pedal then immediately leave the pedal to go to a different pedal or something like that where it would make the pedal sway back and forth.
So now that I think of it, the photogate idea and switch idea might not work. So the sensor can't really rely on any pedal movement (unless anyone has another idea). But the way I see, the sensor needs to rely on the actual hit of the drum

Seems like you could use an accelerometer on the pedal shaft.
The actual position would then not matter but a large shift in acceleration in any direction could light the light.

These are available as small printed board modules for a few dollars on EBay.

Possibly a bit of overkill, though. You would need a micro to read the accelerometer.
 
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  • #32
drum trigger that inputs to a midi device.

Once the data is in the midi realm, there should already be devices that will actuate switches from a midi datastream.
 
  • #33
I would attach a small electret microphone to the frame of the drum, follow it with a high pass filter and a threshold detector. That would detect the step impulse from a drum hit but not the lower amplitude drum resonance or other sounds present in the local environment.
 

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