How can I verify the Divergence Theorem for F=(2xz,y,−z^2)

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The discussion revolves around verifying the Divergence Theorem for the vector field F=(2xz,y,−z^2) over a specific region D, defined as the wedge cut from the first octant by the plane z = y and the elliptical cylinder x^2 + 4y^2 = 16.

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  • Participants explore the setup for the right-hand side of the Divergence Theorem, discussing parameterizations and limits for integration. Questions arise regarding the appropriate limits for the triple integral and the correct interpretation of the surface integral.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up the integrals and emphasized the importance of visualizing the region. There is an ongoing exploration of the limits of integration and the use of different coordinate systems, with no consensus reached on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the divergence of F is constant (equal to 1), which simplifies the volume integral. There are mentions of the need to account for all surfaces in the surface integral, and some participants express uncertainty about the ranges for the parameters used in their integrations.

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Homework Statement


Verify the Divergence Theorem for F=(2xz,y,−z^2) and D is the wedge cut from the first octant by the plane z =y and the elliptical cylinder x^2+4y^2=16

Homework Equations


\int \int F\cdot n dS=\int \int \int divF dv

The Attempt at a Solution


For the RHS
r(u,v)=(4cosu,2sinu,v) where u=[0,2pi] and v=[0,1]
\overrightarrow{r}u \times \overrightarrow{r}v =(2cosu,4sinu,0)[/B]
\left \| \overrightarrow{r}u \times \overrightarrow{r}v \right \|=\sqrt{4cos^{2}u+16sin^{2}v}
\int \int f(r(u,v))\cdot \left \| \overrightarrow{r}u \times \overrightarrow{r}v \right \| dudv
For the Div F . dv
Div F=1
What is the limit for the triple integral?
How can I do the triple integration to verify the divergence theorem?

thanks
 
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kelvin56484984 said:

Homework Statement


Verify the Divergence Theorem for F=(2xz,y,−z^2) and D is the wedge cut from the first octant by the plane z =y and the elliptical cylinder x^2+4y^2=16

Homework Equations


\int \int F\cdot n dS=\int \int \int divF dv

The Attempt at a Solution


For the RHS
r(u,v)=(4cosu,2sinu,v) where u=[0,2pi] and v=[0,1]
\overrightarrow{r}u \times \overrightarrow{r}v =(2cosu,4sinu,0)[/B]
\left \| \overrightarrow{r}u \times \overrightarrow{r}v \right \|=\sqrt{4cos^{2}u+16sin^{2}v}
\int \int f(r(u,v))\cdot \left \| \overrightarrow{r}u \times \overrightarrow{r}v \right \| dudv
That last integral should be$$
\pm\int \int \vec F(r(u,v))\cdot \vec r_u \times \vec r_v~ dudv $$where the sign is chosen appropriate for the outer normal.
##u## doesn't go from ##0## to ##2\pi## for the first octant, and ##v## doesn't go from ##0## to ##1##. Also, I assume you are aware that the surface integral(s) must include all four surfaces.

For the Div F . dv
Div F=1
What is the limit for the triple integral?
How can I do the triple integration to verify the divergence theorem?

thanks

Have you drawn a picture of the wedge? Since the divergence is ##1## you are just doing a volume integral. You might pick some order of dz, dy, dx and set up a triple integral. Start with a picture.
 
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thanks for the reply
Should u and v be [0,pi/2],[0,4] respectively ?
thus, the integration is
\int_{0}^{4}\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} (4cosu,2sinu,v)\cdot (2cosu,4sinu,0) dudv
=\int_{0}^{4}\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} (8cos^{2}u+8sin^{2}u)dudv

For the second part,
If I use the shperical coordinate to do the integration,
θ should be [0,pi/2] , ϕ,should be [0,pi/4] ?
How can I find the limit of p ?
z=y : psinϕ=psinθcosϕ
 
kelvin56484984 said:
thanks for the reply
Should u and v be [0,pi/2],[0,4] respectively ?

Yes for ##u##, no for ##v##. ##v## is just a rename of ##z## and it never gets as large as ##4##. And its range depends on what ##u## is, which determines ##x## and ##y##. You need a picture.

thus, the integration is
\int_{0}^{4}\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \color{red}{(4cosu,2sinu,v)}\cdot (2cosu,4sinu,0) dudv
=\int_{0}^{4}\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} (8cos^{2}u+8sin^{2}u)dudv

No, per above. Also what I have highlighted in red doesn't look like ##\vec F(\vec r(u,v))##.

For the second part,
If I use the shperical coordinate to do the integration,
θ should be [0,pi/2] , ϕ,should be [0,pi/4] ?
How can I find the limit of p ?
z=y : psinϕ=psinθcosϕ

Why in the world would you think of spherical coordinates? There is nothing "spherical" about this problem. You have apparently ignored my post where I suggested to draw a picture and set it up in rectangular coordinates. And what about the other three surfaces for part ##1##?
 
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