How can the product rule be applied to a function with 3 variables?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the product rule in implicit differentiation involving a function with three variables. The original poster presents an equation and seeks clarification on how to apply the product rule in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the product rule for multiple variables, with one suggesting a method for differentiation that involves treating each variable separately and combining results. Others question the clarity of the original equation and the nature of the variables involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the differentiation process and clarifying the roles of dependent and independent variables. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in applying the product rule to three variables, and some participants have offered guidance on rearranging terms to isolate the derivative.

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There is some ambiguity regarding the variables in the original equation, particularly whether y is dependent on x and how y' is defined. Participants are also exploring the implications of having multiple dependent variables in the context of the product rule.

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hey there,

At the moment at school I'm doing Implicit Differentiation.

If i had for Instence 2y'yx + 6x = 0

how can I use the product rule on the first step when there are 3 variables?

Cheers-
Andy
 
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It's simple, you can derive it yourself using the rule for 2 variables :

\frac{d}{dx}(uvw) = uv\frac{dw}{dx} + w\frac{d}{dx}(uv) = uv\frac{dw}{dx} + w(u\frac{dv}{dx} + v\frac{du}{dx}) = uv\frac{dw}{dx} + vw\frac{du}{dx} + uw\frac{dv}{dx}

Doesn't the form look simple ? Differentiate one variable at a time, multiply by all other variables, then take it through all the combinations, and add everything up. Of course, it applies for any number of variables.

Can you do your problem now ? (But to tell you the truth, the problem you gave is unclear - if you're trying to find out y' in terms of y and x, all you need to do is rearrange the terms).
 
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Thankyou very much. Yes, I was trying to find y' in terms of the other stuff. Previously, I had only learned the product rule for two variables.. like u'.v + u.v'.
 
bumclouds said:
If I had for instance 2y'yx + 6x = 0

how can I use the product rule on the first step when there are 3 variables?
Well, unless something is mis-typed, there are two variables if one assumes y = y(x) and y' = dy(x)/dy, and y would be dependent on x which is an independent variable.

In the above equation, "2x" factors out leaving y'y + 3 = 0, or y' = dy/dx = -3/y, or y dy = -3 dx.

Curious3141 provided the correct chain rule for 3 dependent variables, the fourth x being independent.
 
That would be three dependent variables.
 
It would have been better to say "3 factors".

(uvw)'= u'vw+ uv'w+ uvw'.
 

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