How can we find the curvature of a star or planet?

In summary, the conversation discusses how to determine if a star is spherical or disk-shaped. One method is to observe the Doppler shift from rotation, which would indicate a spherical shape. Another method is to measure the light reflected off of other planets at different times, which would also point to a spherical shape. However, the presence of centrifugal force can make a large celestial body appear spherical even if it is not. To differentiate between a slowly rotating spherical star and a rapidly rotating flattened star, other methods such as observing phases and using laser range finders can be used.
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Suppose we are watching a star that is spehrical. But we will see its one face that is toward us(suppose its not rotating). We will see that face to be plane circular. Is there any way we can find the curvature? or tell if its spherical or disk shaped ?
 
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You mean we can't use the existence of gravity to infer that it's spherical? (have you been arguing with flat-earthers?:nb))

In that case, Doppler shift from rotation would give the easiest clue - note that pretty much the only case where it would not be rotating is for a tidally-locked moon.

And since in the case of a moon it's a close-by reflective solid body, you could use laser range finders (different return trip times for light signals aimed at different spots) to build a 3D map.
Observations of phases would work too (the varying curvature of terminator).

Another method for the star that would point to its spherical shape is to measure light reflected off of other planets at a range of times - a disc would not shine equally in all directions, so the amount of light reflected (after correcting for phases) would differ depending on the position of the planet w/r to the star.
Once you know it's spherical, the curvature from the observed disc gives the overall curvature.
 
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DrClaude said:
Any sufficiently big celestial body will be spherical due to self-gravity
No, it won't.
Centrifugal force can resist gravity no matter how big the body may be.

How can we tell a difference between a star which is not rotating or slowly rotating, and which therefore is spherical, and a star which is rotating rapidly and strongly flattened, but which we are observing along its axis and which therefore looks perfect circle?
Doppler shift will not help. The pole we are looking at is not moving, and the equator at the edge of the disc is moving rapidly but neither towards nor away from us, so no Doppler shift.
 
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snorkack said:
No, it won't.
Centrifugal force can resist gravity no matter how big the body may be.

How can we tell a difference between a star which is not rotating or slowly rotating, and which therefore is spherical, and a star which is rotating rapidly and strongly flattened, but which we are observing along its axis and which therefore looks perfect circle?
Doppler shift will not help. The pole we are looking at is not moving, and the equator at the edge of the disc is moving rapidly but neither towards nor away from us, so no Doppler shift.

Exactly. Then what is the procedure? ?
 

1. How is the curvature of a star or planet measured?

The curvature of a star or planet is measured by observing its apparent size from different angles. This is typically done using telescopes and specialized imaging techniques.

2. What factors affect the curvature of a star or planet?

The curvature of a star or planet is affected by its mass, density, and rotational speed. These factors determine the overall shape and size of the object.

3. Can we measure the curvature of a star or planet from Earth?

Yes, we can measure the curvature of a star or planet from Earth using advanced telescopes and imaging techniques. However, more accurate measurements can be obtained by sending probes or spacecrafts closer to the object.

4. How does the curvature of a star or planet relate to its gravity?

The curvature of a star or planet is directly related to its gravity. Objects with higher curvature have a stronger gravitational pull, while objects with lower curvature have a weaker gravitational pull.

5. Why is it important to study the curvature of stars and planets?

Studying the curvature of stars and planets can provide valuable insights into their physical properties and evolution. It can also help us understand the formation and structure of galaxies and the universe as a whole.

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