How did they divide the equations ?

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The discussion focuses on solving for the angle theta in a physics problem involving two repelling point charges. The user has set up the equations based on the forces acting on the charges and is unsure how to proceed with dividing the equations to eliminate the tension variable (T). The solution involves dividing the horizontal and vertical force equations, leading to the relationship involving sine and tangent functions. Clarification is provided that the length of the string (L) is crucial for the calculations. Understanding this division technique is emphasized as a valuable problem-solving tool in physics.
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How did they "divide the equations"?

Homework Statement



Two 5.0g point charges on 1.0m-long threads repel each other after being charged to +100nC.
What is angle theta? You can assume theta is a small angle.

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Homework Equations


K=9.0*10^9 Nm^2/C^2
g=9.8m/s^2
q=\frac{K|q_1||q_2|}{d^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I determined my unknowns and translated everything into standard units, and drew out the free-body diagram.

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Translated everything into standard units.
5.0g = 5.0*10^(-3) kg
100nc = 100*10^(-9) C

\frac{1}{2}d=\sin{\theta}
d=2\sin{\theta}
T_x=T\sin{\theta}=F_{2on1}=\frac{Kq^2}{d^2}
T_x=T\sin{\theta}=F_{2on1}=\frac{Kq^2}{(2\sin{\theta})^2}
T_x=T\sin{\theta}=F_{2on1}=\frac{Kq^2}{4sin^2{\theta} }
T_y=T\cos{\theta}=mg

The "missing" step:
The solutions manual says that the next step from here is to "divide the two equations and solve for q". What I don't know is how they "divided the two equations" to get this:

\sin^2{\theta}\tan{\theta}=\frac{Kq^2}{4L^2mg}=4.59*10^{-4}
 
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Divide this equation:
aleksbooker said:
T\sin{\theta}=\frac{Kq^2}{4sin^2{\theta} }
By this one:
T\cos{\theta}=mg

Divide the left sides by each other and the right sides by each other.
 
hi aleksbooker! :wink:
aleksbooker said:
T_x=T\sin{\theta}=F_{2on1}=\frac{Kq^2}{4sin^2{\theta} }
T_y=T\cos{\theta}=mg

What I don't know is how they "divided the two equations"

you divide Tsinθ by Tcosθ, to give you Ttanθ = … ? :smile:

(hmm … there seems to be an L2 missing :confused:)
 
tiny-tim said:
(hmm … there seems to be an L2 missing :confused:)

Apparently, L is the length of the string, which is given as 1 m.
 
Mind blown. Thanks @Doc Al. Okay, that works - I'm assuming it only makes to do something like this when you can use it to eliminate a variable (like T in this problem).
 
Yea, L was the length of the string.
 
aleksbooker said:
I'm assuming it only makes to do something like this when you can use it to eliminate a variable (like T in this problem).
Think of it as just another tool in your bag of tricks. A useful one.
 
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