How difficult will it be to build a 'hybrid' Jet engine?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and challenges of developing a 'hybrid' jet engine capable of utilizing both kerosene and gaseous hydrogen as fuel. Participants explore the implications of modifying existing engine designs to accommodate this dual-fuel system, particularly focusing on the production of hydrogen through electrolysis and the potential efficiency gains.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses a hypothetical question about the difficulty of building a hybrid jet engine that can switch from kerosene to hydrogen fuel, emphasizing the need for sufficient hydrogen production.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the practicality of such a hybrid engine, referencing past experiences with attempts to gain efficiency that resembled perpetual motion concepts.
  • The same participant challenges the feasibility of the proposed hybrid engine, asking for convincing arguments to support its usefulness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views regarding the feasibility and practicality of the hybrid jet engine concept. The discussion remains unresolved with skepticism expressed about the proposal.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the production of hydrogen and the modifications needed for current engine designs, as well as the broader implications of efficiency claims.

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Can we build a jet engine which will be able to handle both Kerosene and (gaseous) Hydrogen as fuel? After burning the kerosene for a while, Hydrogen will take over as the fuel, burning to produce the exhaust gas and resulting thrust.
Hi,
Here is a question - somewhat futuristic and at the moment, hypothetical.
How difficult will it be to build a 'hybrid' Jet (turbofan) engine? The engine should be able to handle both Kerosene and (gaseous) Hydrogen as fuel. After burning the kerosene for a while, Hydrogen will take over as the fuel, burning to produce the exhaust gas and resulting thrust. Let me clarify. Imagine, there are excess electricity produced by the turbine(s) of the engine(s). This electricity will be used to produce Hydrogen by electrolysis of water and Hydrogen gas (so produced), in turn, will be fed into the engine. There is obviously the question of feasibility of producing enough Hydrogen .But the focus of my question really is: assuming there are enough supply, can an engine (with current design/architecture) be suitably modified to achieve this?
 
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I used to do consulting work with a local patent attorney. Almost all of the attempts gain efficiency were a "partial" perpetual motion machine. I remember very well elderly farmer who was convinced he could add an air compressor to his system and regeneratively run it to his advantage. I convinced him this was unlikely and saved him some money...although maybe he would have been happier working on it...
Anyhow your jet seems very unlikely to be useful...convince me otherwise.

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hutchphd said:
...convince me otherwise.
Not at PF. That kind of discussion is not allowed here. Thread will remain closed.
 
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