How do I choose u' u and v for relative velocity

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To find the speed of the ejected material from a quasar relative to Earth, the relativistic velocity addition formula is used: u = (u' + v) / (1 + u'v/c^2). In this scenario, the quasar recedes from Earth at 0.87c, and the ejected material moves towards Earth at 0.55c relative to the quasar. The known velocity in the quasar's frame is designated as u, while the unknown velocity in Earth's frame is u'. It's crucial to ensure that the signs for u and v are consistent within the same reference frame. Proper application of the formula will yield the correct speed of the ejected material relative to Earth.
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Homework Statement


A certain quasar recedes from the Earth with a speed of .87c. a jet of material is ejjected towards the Earth at .55c relative to the quasar. find speed of ejected material relative to the earth

Homework Equations


u = u'+v / 1 + u'v/c^2

The Attempt at a Solution


guessing. that if I draw both reference frames, v is the velocity that stays constant. in this case v=.87c. in one reference frame, the quasar is receding, and in the other the Earth is receding from the quasar. either way there is a .87c and I will call it v.

u is the velocity in the reference frame that it is given. .55c is the velocity of the ejected material in the quasar's reference frame. I want it in the Earth's reference frame though, so I call the known velocity in the quasar's reference frame u and the unknown velocity in the Earth's reference frame u'.

and as long as I keep my signs straight, this should work right?scratch that. the signs on u and v must be from the same reference frame.
 
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You might find this way of writing the velocity addition formula helpful:
Doc Al said:
Addition of (parallel) velocities:

Low-speed (Galilean) addition of velocities:
V_{a/c} = V_{a/b} + V_{b/c}

Relativistic addition of velocities:
V_{a/c} = \frac{V_{a/b} + V_{b/c}}{1 + (V_{a/b} V_{b/c})/c^2}
Where ##V_{a/c}##, for example, means the velocity of a as measured by c. That should allow you to keep the signs straight.
 
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