How Do I Find Direction of Forces in Statics?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of forces in a statics problem involving multiple rods. The original poster expresses confusion about determining the correct directions of forces S1, S2, and S3, particularly in an exam context where they must derive these directions independently.

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  • Participants discuss the logic behind the assumed directions of forces and the implications of choosing arbitrary directions. There is mention of the relationship between action and reaction forces, as well as the need for consistency in defining positive directions.

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Some participants provide insights into the nature of force directions and the importance of symmetry in the problem setup. There is an acknowledgment of the need to apply the equations of statics to find unknown forces, but no consensus on a specific approach has been reached.

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The original poster mentions a lack of clarity from their professor, which may contribute to their confusion. There are also references to uploaded images that are intended to clarify the problem but have faced issues in being displayed correctly.

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I really don't understand what is the logic in the direction of forces S1,S2 and S3.This is an example and here are given directions of the forces,but in the exam I will have to find them on my own.
Could someone explain to me how should I find them and what kind of thinking I have to apply here,maybe action equals minus reaction ?
I really have a bad professor from Mechanics and she just doesn't care to explain very much.

Thank you in advance I hope pictures are clear.
 

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The last picture...don't know why it wasnt uploaded in the first post
 
Ivan Antunovic said:
The last picture...don't know why it wasnt uploaded in the first post
 

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Ivan Antunovic said:
I really don't understand what is the logic in the direction of forces S1,S2 and S3.This is an example and here are given directions of the forces,but in the exam I will have to find them on my own.
Could someone explain to me how should I find them and what kind of thinking I have to apply here,maybe action equals minus reaction ?
I really have a bad professor from Mechanics and she just doesn't care to explain very much.

Thank you in advance I hope pictures are clear.
I think the direction of the forces as shown on the diagram is arbitrary. You can assume that the direction indicates, for example, a compressive force in each rod.

After you work out the forces in each rod which keep this system in statics equilibrium, there may indeed be forces which are in tension, that is, which will tend to pull a rod out of the wall.

It's hard to figure out what is the true case here just by inspection. The rods appear to be symmetrical with respect to the y-axis.

As always, use the equations of statics to find the unknown force magnitudes in each of the three rods.
 
In general if a problem statement doesn't define which direction is +ve then you have to do so. You can make an arbitrary choice but you must be consistent. eg you have to take that into account when you are writing your equations (eg when summing components of forces or torques). The answer force(s) or torque(s) will turn out to be +ve or -ve then you refer to your definition of +ve to work out which direction it points and calculate any angles appropriately.
 
CWatters said:
In general if a problem statement doesn't define which direction is +ve then you have to do so. You can make an arbitrary choice but you must be consistent. eg you have to take that into account when you are writing your equations (eg when summing components of forces or torques). The answer force(s) or torque(s) will turn out to be +ve or -ve then you refer to your definition of +ve to work out which direction it points and calculate any angles appropriately.

So I could basically take directions as I've taken on this picture and it should be fine?
 

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Sorry for the 2nd picture being reverse uploaded tried to upload it again normally but failed.
 

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