How do I find the tension in a cable in an elevator cab?

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To find the tension in the cable of an elevator cab with a mass of 1600 kg, moving downward at 12 m/s and brought to rest over 42 m, the correct approach involves using SUVAT equations to calculate acceleration. The calculated acceleration is approximately -1.7143 m/s², leading to a tension of about 18,423 N in the cable. The original calculations presented were incorrect, as they did not utilize the appropriate equations. The discussion highlights frustration with inadequate textbook resources and the importance of using proper formulas in engineering problems. Overall, understanding and applying the right equations is crucial for solving such physics problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


"An elevator cab and its load have a combined mass of 1600 kg. Find the tension in the supporting cable when the cab, originally moving downward at 12 m/s, is brought to rest with constant acceleration in a distance of 42 m."

##m = 1600 kg##
##v = 12 m/s##
##d = 42 m##

Homework Equations


##t = d/v##
Answer: ##T = 1.8 * 10^4 N##

The Attempt at a Solution


##t = (42 m)/(12 m/s) = 3.5 s##
##v/s = (12 m/s)/(3.5 s) = 3.43 m/s^2##
##T = (1600 kg)(9.8 m/s^2 - 3.43 m/s^2) = 10192 N ≠ 18000 N##

I honestly have no idea how to tackle this problem, am just making guesses, and find it difficult to be doing this everyday as a student engineer. It's supposed to be so simple, yet I can't bloody do this. I'm doubting my ability to enter the engineering field if I can't do a simple problem such as this.
 
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Eclair_de_XII said:

Homework Statement


"An elevator cab and its load have a combined mass of 1600 kg. Find the tension in the supporting cable when the cab, originally moving downward at 12 m/s, is brought to rest with constant acceleration in a distance of 42 m."

##m = 1600 kg##
##v = 12 m/s##
##d = 42 m##

Homework Equations


##t = d/v##
Answer: ##T = 1.8 * 10^4 N##

The Attempt at a Solution


##t = (42 m)/(12 m/s) = 3.5 s##
##v/s = (12 m/s)/(3.5 s) = 3.43 m/s^2##
##T = (1600 kg)(9.8 m/s^2 - 3.43 m/s^2) = 10192 N ≠ 18000 N##

I honestly have no idea how to tackle this problem, am just making guesses, and find it difficult to be doing this everyday as a student engineer. It's supposed to be so simple, yet I can't bloody do this. I'm doubting my ability to enter the engineering field if I can't do a simple problem such as this.
You've just thrown some calculations together at the end of your post.

There is a SUVAT equation which combines initial velocity, final velocity, distance traveled, and acceleration. Have you tried using that to find the acceleration a?
 
SteamKing said:
There is a SUVAT equation which combines initial velocity, final velocity, distance traveled, and acceleration. Have you tried using that to find the acceleration a?

The textbook did not give me any equations to work with, so I didn't even know to use them.
 
Eclair_de_XII said:
The textbook did not give me any equations to work with, so I didn't even know to use them.
You've got a computer. There's a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips. Google "SUVAT equations" and you can find what you need.

P.S.: What kind of textbook doesn't have equations in it? Throw that thing away. It's defective.
 
SteamKing said:
Google "SUVAT equations" and you can find what you need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equat...translational_acceleration_in_a_straight_line

SteamKing said:
There is a SUVAT equation which combines initial velocity, final velocity, distance traveled, and acceleration.

From that link...
##v^2 = u^2 + 2as##
##0 = (12 m/s)^2 + 2a(42 m)##
##a = -(12 m/s)^2/2(42 m)##
##a = -1.7143 m/s^2##
##F = (a + g)(1600 kg) = (-1.7143 m/s^2 - 9.8 m/s^2)(1600 kg) = -18,423 N##
##T = -F = 18,423 N##

SteamKing said:
P.S.: What kind of textbook doesn't have equations in it? Throw that thing away. It's defective.

Thank you for saying this. I thought it was just me. I made a whole topic voicing my complaints on it, and I was convinced to keep using it, until now.
 
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