How do I solve the integral of cot^3(x)?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function cot^3(x), specifically the integral ∫cot^3(x) dx. Participants are exploring various methods and substitutions related to trigonometric integrals.

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  • Some participants attempt integration by parts and express their results, while others suggest using substitutions involving cotangent and cosecant functions. There are discussions about rewriting cot^3(x) in terms of other trigonometric identities and questioning the choices of u and v in integration by parts.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's attempts, providing suggestions and corrections. There is a recognition of progress, as some participants express confusion about their results and seek clarification on their methods. No consensus has been reached, but several productive directions have been explored.

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Some participants express frustration with trigonometric integrals and mention feeling confused, indicating a potential lack of confidence in their mathematical skills. There are also references to textbook resources for further study.

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Homework Statement


Integrate
∫cot^{3}(x)


Homework Equations



u*v-∫vdu

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the integration by parts formula and I got:

cot^{3}(x)(ln|sin(x)|)-∫ln|sin(x)|-x-cot(x)dx

I don't know how to integrate the integrand.
 
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november1992 said:

Homework Statement


Integrate
∫cot^{3}(x)

Homework Equations



u*v-∫vdu

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the integration by parts formula and I got:

cot^{3}(x)(ln|sin(x)|)-∫ln|sin(x)|-x-cot(x)dx

I don't know how to integrate the integrand.
Please ... let us know what you used for u & v. We could guess, but why make us guess ?
 
Try writing ##\cot^3(x) = \cot^2x\cot x = (\csc^2(x)-1)\cot x##. Then a couple of appropriate u-substitutions might work for you.
 
SammyS said:
Please ... let us know what you used for u & v. We could guess, but why make us guess ?

cot^{2}x as u, -csc^{2}x as du
cot(x) as dv, ln|sin(x)| as v



LCKurtz said:
Try writing ##\cot^3(x) = \cot^2x\cot x = (\csc^2(x)-1)\cot x##. Then a couple of appropriate u-substitutions might work for you.

That was what I tried to do first. I made u=cot(x), du= -csc^{2}x
when i integrate i get u^{3}/3 - u
 
LCKurtz said:
Try writing ##\cot^3(x) = \cot^2x\cot x = (\csc^2(x)-1)\cot x##. Then a couple of appropriate u-substitutions might work for you.

That was what I tried to do first. I made u=cot(x), du= -csc^{2}x
when i integrate i get u^{3}/3 - u

The u sub only works for the first term. Try writing ##\cot x = \frac{\cos x}{\sin x}## for the second term.
 
Okay, now i got:

∫(1-csc(x))*\frac{cos(x)}{sin(x)}

∫(1-\frac{1}{sin(x)} * \frac{cos(x)}{sin(x)}

u=sin(x), du=cos(x)

∫(1-\frac{1}{u})

u-lnu

sin(x)-ln|sin(x)|
 
november1992 said:
Okay, now i got:

∫(1-csc(x))*\frac{cos(x)}{sin(x)}

∫(1-\frac{1}{sin(x)} * \frac{cos(x)}{sin(x)}

u=sin(x), du=cos(x)

∫(1-\frac{1}{u})

u-lnu

sin(x)-ln|sin(x)|

No, you don't have it yet. But you are getting closer. Write cot(x)^3=cos(x)^3/sin(x)^3. Now try u=sin(x).
 
I just ended up with ln|sin(x)| I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 
november1992 said:
I just ended up with ln|sin(x)| I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

It would be really hard to say what you are doing wrong if you don't show what you are doing. Now wouldn't it??
 
  • #10
∫ cos(x)^3/sin(x)^3.

u=sin(x), du=cos(x)

∫1/u

ln(u)

ln|sin(x)|
 
  • #11
november1992 said:
∫ cos(x)^3/sin(x)^3.

u=sin(x), du=cos(x)

∫1/u

ln(u)

ln|sin(x)|

No. What happened the power 3? That would be ok, if it was cos(x)/sin(x). It's not. It's cos(x)^3/sin(x)^3.
 
  • #12
∫\frac{1}{u^3}

\frac{2}{sin^2}

Is this right?
 
  • #13
november1992 said:
∫\frac{1}{u^3}

\frac{2}{sin^2}

Is this right?

Not even a little. If you substitute u=sin(x) du=cos(x) dx into \int \frac{cos^3(x)}{sin^3(x)} dx you get \int \frac{cos^2(x)}{u^3} du. Now you just need to express cos(x)^2 in terms of u.
 
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  • #14
∫\frac{u^2}{u^3}

\frac{2u^3}{u^2}

\frac{2cos^3}{cos^2}



I don't think I'm doing it right. Trigonometric Integrals confuse me.
 
  • #15
november1992 said:
∫\frac{u^2}{u^3}

\frac{u^3}{u^2}

\frac{cos^3}{cos^2}. I don't think I'm doing it right. Trigonometric Integrals confuse me.

Yes, they do confuse you. cos(x)^2=1-sin(x)^2. Express that in terms of u.
 
  • #16
Dick said:
Yes, they do confuse you. cos(x)^2=1-sin(x)^2. Express that in terms of u.


\frac{1-sin^2(x)}{sin^3}
 
  • #17
november1992 said:
\frac{1-sin^2(x)}{sin^3}

This is not going well. cos(x)^2=1-sin(x)^2=1-u^2. You might be too tired right now to think straight. I know I am. Gotta go now.
 
  • #18
november1992 said:
\frac{1-sin^2(x)}{sin^3}

That is not in terms of u. :p
u = sin x, so:
∫\frac{1-u^2}{u^3}du
 
  • #19
Dick said:
This is not going well. cos(x)^2=1-sin(x)^2=1-u^2. You might be too tired right now to think straight. I know I am. Gotta go now.

I think it may be the fact that I'm very bad at math. Thanks for the help though, I appreciate it.

Sefrez said:
That is not in terms of u. :p
u = sin x, so:
∫\frac{1-u^2}{u^3}du

do i integrate that?
 
  • #20
Also, just another way to solve, if you want some practice :devil::

Mod note: Removed complete solution.[/color]

november1992 said:
I think it may be the fact that I'm very bad at math. Thanks for the help though, I appreciate it.



do i integrate that?

Yes, split the faction into partial fractions. All you have is 1/u^3 - u^2/u^3.
 
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  • #21
Thanks for the help. I'll just read my textbook again and do some more practice problems.
 

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