How do I solve the integral of sqrt(x)/(sqrt(x-1))?

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The problem involves evaluating the integral of the function \(\sqrt{x}/\sqrt{x-1}\) with respect to \(x\). The discussion centers around methods of integration, particularly substitution and integration by parts.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various substitution methods, including \(u = \sqrt{x}\) and \(u = x - 1\). There is also mention of using integration by parts, although some participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of these approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different substitution strategies and questioning the implications of their choices. Some guidance has been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants note a lack of familiarity with certain calculus concepts, such as the behavior of derivatives in substitution, which may affect their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


\int(\sqrt{x}/\sqrt{x-1} )dx.


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The Attempt at a Solution



It should be doable with substitution or/and with partial intergral. I just don't figure out what to substitute. I have tried with u = √(x-1), u = √(x), and with partial integral formula:

∫u*v´ = u*v - ∫v * u´

Any tips?

Thanks for any help
-Siune
 
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Siune said:

Homework Statement


\int(\sqrt{x}/\sqrt{x-1} )dx.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



It should be doable with substitution or/and with partial intergral. I just don't figure out what to substitute. I have tried with u = √(x-1), u = √(x), and with partial integral formula:

∫u*v´ = u*v - ∫v * u´

Any tips?

Thanks for any help
-Siune
Hello Siune. Welcome to PF .

Try the substitution, u = x-1 .
 
I think much simpler is to let u= \sqrt{x}. Now what are dx and x- 1 in terms of u and du?
 
SammyS said:
Hello Siune. Welcome to PF .

Try the substitution, u = x-1 .
The result of this is no better than the original.
 
don't use partial integral, first multiply the integrand ∫(√x/√(x−1))dx to √x/√x..

Moderator note: I removed the subsequent work shown. Please let the OP try to work out the problem on his or her own.
 
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Adding that extra sqrt(x) was clever. I seem to understand and accept with everything, but there is the part

"divide 2x-1 to x"?

U mean I calculate u = 2x-1 \Leftrightarrow x = (1/2)(u+1)?
which is then x dx = (1/2)(u+1) du?


I'm sorry I might seem like totally idiot, but until university, sign (dx/du) was totally unknown to me so I'm not familiar with it and don't know how it exactly behaves.

To HallsOfIvy, thanks for the tip.
 

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