How do I understand notational mathematics?

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The discussion revolves around understanding notational mathematics, particularly in the context of theoretical computer science and discrete mathematics. Participants express challenges in interpreting mathematical notation despite having a grasp of the underlying concepts.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in writing formulas for concepts like the Cartesian product, despite understanding the intuition behind them.
  • Another participant suggests that reviewing chapters on set theory and logic in discrete mathematics textbooks may be beneficial.
  • A participant mentions having successfully studied discrete mathematics but still struggles with memorizing definitions and understanding notations.
  • Another participant emphasizes that mathematics begins with definitions, which are essential for discussing theorems and proofs, and notes that textbooks typically cover the notations in question.

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Participants appear to have differing views on the importance of definitions in mathematics, with some emphasizing their necessity while others focus on understanding concepts without formal definitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to overcoming the challenges of notational mathematics.

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Participants have not reached consensus on how to effectively bridge the gap between understanding concepts and mastering the associated notation. There are indications of varying levels of familiarity with mathematical definitions and their role in learning.

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I will try to explain what I mean.
I understand how to calculate cartesian product. but I can't write the formula for cartesian product as shown below.
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Similarly, in other cases
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I understand what it is trying to say(the inituition) but I really don't understand a word written in it. I feel like this is a huge road block in my journey of learning theoretical computer science mathematics.
I want to get above this barrier. Any guidance you can recommend?
 
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Perhaps you need to read chapters on set theory and logic in any discrete mathematics textbook.

The Cartesian product formula uses the set-builder notation.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Perhaps you need to read chapters on set theory and logic in any discrete mathematics textbook.

The Cartesian product formula uses the set-builder notation.
I already studied discrete math and passed with flying colors. We didn't have to write definitions It was based on understanding. I understand how to solve them, the gist, the inituition but can't understand and memorize these definitions.
 
shivajikobardan said:
We didn't have to write definitions It was based on understanding.
Mathematics starts with definitions, which are followed by theorem statements and their proofs. Without definitions there are no objects to talk about.

In any case, every discrete mathematics textbook has a discussion of notations used in the two pictures you posted. If you have specific questions, you are welcome to ask them here as well.
 

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