How do I use partial fractions to solve \int\frac{7x^2+4x+5}{x^3+x} dx?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\int\frac{7x^2+4x+5}{x^3+x} dx\) using partial fractions. Participants are exploring the appropriate decomposition of the rational function in the context of calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various forms of partial fraction decomposition, including \(\frac{A}{x} + \frac{B}{x^2+1}\) and \(\frac{A}{x} + \frac{B}{x^2} + \frac{C}{x^3} + \frac{D}{x}\). There are questions about the correctness of these approaches and how to proceed with solving for the coefficients.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct form of decomposition, suggesting that for irreducible quadratic factors, the numerator should include a linear term. There is ongoing exploration of the algebra involved in solving for the coefficients A, B, and C, with some participants expressing confusion about the process and the implications of setting x to specific values.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a misunderstanding regarding the denominator, initially thinking it was \(x^3+x\) instead of \(x^3-x\), which may affect their approach to the problem.

PCSL
Messages
146
Reaction score
0
[itex]\int\frac{7x^2+4x+5}{x^3+x} dx[/itex]

I have to solve this using partial fractions and all I could think of was breaking it up into:

[itex]\frac{A}{x}+\frac{B}{x^2+1}[/itex]

also I tried

[itex]\frac{A}{x}+\frac{B}{x^2}+\frac{C}{x^3}+\frac{D}{x}[/itex] The reasoning behind this one was to split up original fraction into [itex]\frac{7x^2+4x+5}{(x^3+0)+x} dx[/itex]

Are either of these two even right? and if so I have no clue how to proceed.

Forgive me for not showing more work, but I have been staring at this for 30 minutes and can think of nothing. Thank you.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
PCSL said:
[itex]\int \frac{7x^2+4x+5}{x^3+x} dx[/itex]

I have to solve this using partial fractions and all I could think of was breaking it up into:

[itex]\frac{A}{x} + \frac{B}{x^2+1}[/itex]

also I tried

[itex]\frac{A}{x} + \frac{B}{x^2} + \frac{C}{x^3} + \frac{D}{x}[/itex]

Are either of these two even right? and if so I have no clue how to proceed.

Forgive me for not showing more work, but I have been staring at this for 30 minutes and can think of nothing. Thank you.

For irreducible quadratic factors in the denominator (like x2 + 1), the numerator should be Ax + B. IOW, your decomposition should be:
[tex]\frac{A}{x} + \frac{Bx + C}{x^2+1}[/tex]
 
Try breaking it up into

[tex]\frac{A}{x}+\frac{Bx+C}{x^2+1}[/tex]
 
Mark44 said:
For irreducible quadratic factors in the denominator (like x2 + 1), the numerator should be Ax + B. IOW, your decomposition should be:
[tex]\frac{A}{x} + \frac{Bx + C}{x^2+1}[/tex]

Alright so then if I multiplied through by x would i have:

[tex]\frac{7x^2+4x+5}{x^2+1}=A + \frac{x(Bx + C)}{x^2+1}[/tex]
 
You need to solve for A, B, and C, and these values do not depend on x. Just do the algebra first.
[tex]\frac{7x^2+4x+5}{x^3+x} =\frac{A}{x} + \frac{Bx + C}{x^2+1}[/tex]

You're solving for A, B, and C so that this equation is an identity - true for all values of x other than those that make the denominators zero.

The first thing to do is to multiply both sides by x(x2 + 1)
 
When I solve for A, B and C - I get A=5, B=7, and C=4.

For the final answer i get:

[tex]5ln(x)+4arctan(x)+\frac{7}{2}ln(x^2+1)[/tex] when the real answer is [tex]5ln(x)+4arctan(x)+ln(x^2+1)[/tex] Thanks for helping me get almost to the end but can you help me figure out why my answer is different? I solved for B by dividing both sides by [tex]x^2[/tex]
 
Not to be a nuisance but I still need help.
 
Yea this stuff just gets a little getting used to. What do you need help with still? Are you unclear of the decomposing fractions?
 
Rayquesto said:
Yea this stuff just gets a little getting used to. What do you need help with still? Are you unclear of the decomposing fractions?

Thanks, this is what I don't understand:

PCSL said:
When I solve for A, B and C - I get A=5, B=7, and C=4.

For the final answer i get:

[tex]5ln(x)+4arctan(x)+\frac{7}{2}ln(x^2+1)[/tex] when the real answer is [tex]5ln(x)+4arctan(x)+ln(x^2+1)[/tex] Thanks for helping me get almost to the end but can you help me figure out why my answer is different? I solved for B by dividing both sides by [tex]x^2[/tex]
 
  • #10
I think you screwd up a bit on the algebra.
A=5
A + B=7
C=4
 
  • #11
Rayquesto said:
I think you screwd up a bit on the algebra.
A=5
A + B=7
C=4

Alright, is the equation

[tex]7x^2+4x+5=A(x^2+1)+Bx^2+Cx[/tex] correct for when I multiply both sides by [tex]x(x^2+1)[/tex] I'm kinda lost here for how I would solve for B. Wouldn't I divide by x^2, then set x=0, and that would give B=7?
 
  • #12
yes.

if 7x^2 + 4x +5 = Ax^2 + A + Bx^2 +Cx

then how do you find the coefficients of A, B and C? (hint: the coefficients are directly associated with the powers of exponents).
 
  • #13
Rayquesto said:
yes.

if 7x^2 + 4x +5 = Ax^2 + A + Bx^2 +Cx

then how do you find the coefficients of A, B and C? (hint: the coefficients are directly associated with the powers of exponents).

I get C=4 and A=5 easy. I can not for the life of be understand why B does not equal 7. I have no clue what your hint means. Why can't you divide both sides by x^2 and get B=7 if you set x=0??
 
  • #14
PCSL said:
I get C=4 and A=5 easy. I can not for the life of be understand why B does not equal 7. I have no clue what your hint means. Why can't you divide both sides by x^2 and get B=7 if you set x=0??

First off, if you set x = 0, you can't then come around and divide by x2.
The equation you are solving is
7x2 + 4x + 5 = (A + B)x2 + Cx + A
This has to be identically true, so the coefficients of x2 and x and the constants have to be equal.
 
  • #15
Thank you for you help, I think I have a better understanding of solving when the denominator is irreducible but my real problem was that the denominator in this particular problem was x^3-x not x^3+x... thank you all for your help, however.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K