How do I wire a fluorescent ballast for a 2G11 base and multiple bulbs?

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The discussion centers around the wiring of a fluorescent ballast for a 2G11 base and multiple bulbs, specifically in the context of using the setup for de-odorizing shoes. Participants explore the necessary components, wiring methods, safety concerns, and alternative solutions for the odor issue.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the specific wiring requirements for connecting a ballast to a battery or outlet, expressing a need for guidance on the components needed.
  • Another participant suggests using a specific type of ballast that provides the necessary voltage for the lamps and mentions the importance of wiring the ballasts in parallel with the power line.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using UV lamps, with warnings about potential harm to eyes and skin, and the necessity of using a proper enclosure to prevent accidental exposure.
  • A participant shares a personal experience regarding the dangers of UV exposure while using a UV lamp, emphasizing the need for caution.
  • There is a discussion about the type of ballast suitable for the fluorescent lamp, with questions about using cheaper options from local hardware stores and whether they would be adequate for the specific lamp type.
  • Another participant mentions the difference between resonant and instant start ballasts, questioning the choice of ballast type for the setup.
  • Suggestions are made regarding alternative methods for addressing shoe odor, such as using zip-lock bags or leaving shoes in the sun, indicating skepticism about the effectiveness of UV light for this purpose.
  • A participant proposes using a solid colored plastic storage bin as an enclosure for the UV lamp to mitigate radiation exposure while questioning the adequacy of this solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the safety and effectiveness of using UV lamps for de-odorizing shoes, with some emphasizing the risks and others focusing on the technical aspects of wiring and ballast selection. There is no consensus on the best approach or the effectiveness of the UV light for the intended purpose.

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Participants discuss the potential dangers of UV exposure and the necessity of proper enclosures, but there are unresolved questions regarding the specific wiring configurations and the suitability of various ballast options. The discussion also highlights differing levels of experience with electrical work among participants.

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Hello,

This should be a simple question for you guys. I want to buy something very similar to this http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/4850/AU-LPLL18UV.html". How do I connect it to a battery or the outlet? I know I need a ballast and some type of socket but what kind? How do I wire it?

I'm going to use it to (hopefully) de-odorize my shoes so my girlfriend will stop complaining. This 'U' shape is perfect as I will be able to just stick the bulb inside the shoe. Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
 
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You will need a ballast/s like the ones recommended here I think:

http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/444/AU-B100054C.html"

These ballast are complete with the electronics to provide the proper voltage to operate the lamps as well as providing instant starting.

Semi_resonant_start_circuit.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamp"

You will have to wire the ballast/s in parallel (one for each tube end) with 120volt line (L) and neutral (N). There will probably be some ground/earth point as well (E). But if you don't have experience with working with mains power, you should get an electrician.
 
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there isn't one that is less than $95 dollars that I could use?
 
These lamps are also fairly dangerous.
They can cause permanent blindness by wrecking your corneas and retinas.
They can also cause skin damage and probably cancer.
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_germicidal_irradiation

So, they need to be in a suitably designed enclosure with switches on the doors, so that accidental exposure to the UV light is not possible.

After all that, they probably won't solve your problem of the shoes.

UV light travels in straight lines, like all light, so only the outside of the shoes directly in line with the light will get zapped. The other parts of the shoes, and especially the inside, will not be affected.

It would be worth trying to find out why your shoes stink. Foot fungus?

Failing that, you could put the shoes in a zip-lock plastic bag, or leave them outside in the sun for a while.
 
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vk6kro said:
... they need to be in a suitably designed enclosure with switches on the doors, so that accidental exposure to the UV light is not possible.

I only addressed the wiring of such a lamp and I'm glad you brought up this point.

The OPs lamp is only 18 Watt, but that's enough to do a lot of damage to a human as you have indicated. I have first hand experience with this.

While doing a simple calibration of a balance inside a fume hood (<5 minutes) with a UV lamp for sterilization ON (my stupid mistake for not paying attention), I got a nice sun burn on my face. Just think of what would have happened had I been looking directly at the lamp. :bugeye:
 
Don,
Yes, I have used them for erasing eproms and for making printed circuit boards and for observing fluorescent effects in rocks, but I'm never happy about being around hard UV sources like these.

So, if we can save a few retinas, that has to be good.

Incidentally, I have been more familiar with this circuit for fluorescent lights:
220px-Fluorescent_Light.svg.png

I wonder why you chose the resonant one?
 
vk6kro said:
Incidentally, I have been more familiar with this circuit for fluorescent lights:
220px-Fluorescent_Light.svg.png

I wonder why you chose the resonant one?

Most fluorescent fixtures today that are used in homes ect., have instant start. I haven't seen many fixtures with removable "starters" like the one in your picture for a long time. I had assumed that the OPs source, which showed a "instant start" ballast, was a resonant one.
 
vk6kro said:
These lamps are also fairly dangerous.
They can cause permanent blindness by wrecking your corneas and retinas.
They can also cause skin damage and probably cancer.
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_germicidal_irradiation

So, they need to be in a suitably designed enclosure with switches on the doors, so that accidental exposure to the UV light is not possible.

After all that, they probably won't solve your problem of the shoes.

UV light travels in straight lines, like all light, so only the outside of the shoes directly in line with the light will get zapped. The other parts of the shoes, and especially the inside, will not be affected.

It would be worth trying to find out why your shoes stink. Foot fungus?

Failing that, you could put the shoes in a zip-lock plastic bag, or leave them outside in the sun for a while.

I was aware of the potential harmful effects and was planning on placing the bulb inside of the shoe. Then I was going to place the shoe inside of an enclosure to avoid the radiation and wire a switch that would be accessible from the outside. I was thinking of using a solid colored plastic storage bin. Would that be sufficient?

As far as the ballast goes, it kind of looks like I assume my 'U' shaped is a straight one and wire it the same. The only question is, can I use one of those cheap 18w ballasts from lowes or home depot? I've seen some in the 10-20 dollar range. Would any on this webpage power the light (link on my first post) http://usalight.com/ballasts/fluorescent-ballasts.html?gclid=CNL__5Xrj6gCFQli2god02kOCw"
 
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Meseria said:
As far as the ballast goes, it kind of looks like I assume my 'U' shaped is a straight one and wire it the same. The only question is, can I use one of those cheap 18w ballasts from lowes or home depot? I've seen some in the 10-20 dollar range. Would any on this webpage power the light (link on my first post) http://usalight.com/ballasts/fluorescent-ballasts.html?gclid=CNL__5Xrj6gCFQli2god02kOCw"

The tube you are considering from your OP uses a 2G11 type base like this:

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/pro-lighting_2148_91891347

which I found here: http://www.prolighting.com/coflso.html" .

If you go to the second page of the usalight.com link you've given, you'll see that this one will support a minimum of 1 bulb and a maximum of 2 bulbs which might be the way to go for two shoes.

http://usalight.com/b-2x26-unv-multi-fluorescent-ballast-2-lamp-cfl.html"

Note that this ballast is good for one or two 26 watt 4-pin lamps and can provide a maximum of 52 watts.
 
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