How Do Red and Blue Laser Photon Emissions Compare at Equal Power?

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The discussion revolves around comparing the rates of photon emission from a red laser (650 nm) and a blue laser (450 nm) that emit the same power. Participants are exploring the relationship between photon energy and emission rates based on their respective wavelengths.

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  • Participants discuss the equations relating power, photon energy, and emission rates. There are attempts to equate the powers of both lasers and derive the ratio of their photon emissions. Some participants question the direction of the ratio and the relevance of their calculations.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the calculations and assumptions made about the relationship between wavelength and photon energy. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the ratio correctly, while others have confirmed their calculations and explored potential errors in reasoning.

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Participants are working under the constraint that both lasers emit the same power, which influences their calculations of photon emission rates. There is also mention of confusion regarding the use of wavelengths in the calculations.

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[SOLVED] I'm doing something wrong...

1. A red laser with a wavelength of 650 nm and a blue laser with a wavelength of 450 nn emit laser beams with the same light power. How do their rates of photon emission compare? Answer this by computing R_{red} / R_{blue}
2. P = Rhf = dNhf / dt = dE_{light} / dt
R = dN / dt
E_{light} = Nhf, where N is the number of photons
f = c / \lambda
h = 6.624E-32 Js

3. I have the f_{red} = 4.62 x 10^{14} s
and f_{blue} = 6.67 x 10^{14} s , it says their Powers are the same, so I go ahead and went and equaled:

P_{red} to P_{blue}, which is:P_{red}h_{red}f_{red} = P_{blue}h_{blue}f_{blue}

but I am tired and can't see the relevance, because when I multiplied times h [in Js] and then I divide like explained, I get .6925, and the ANSWER is 1.44.

Help? Please?
 
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Since red photons carry less energy per photon, there will need to be more of them. You just got your answer upside-down.

Just use your equation for E = Nhf, and be sure to take the ratio in the correct direction.
 
elephantorz said:
1. A red laser with a wavelength of 650 nm and a blue laser with a wavelength of 450 nn emit laser beams with the same light power. How do their rates of photon emission compare? Answer this by computing R_{red} / R_{blue}



2. P = Rhf = dNhf / dt = dE_{light} / dt
R = dN / dt
E_{light} = Nhf, where N is the number of photons
f = c / \lambda
h = 6.624E-32 Js




3. I have the f_{red} = 4.62 x 10^{14} s
and f_{blue} = 6.67 x 10^{14} s , it says their Powers are the same, so I go ahead and went and equaled:

P_{red} to P_{blue}, which is:


P_{red}h_{red}f_{red} = P_{blue}h_{blue}f_{blue}

but I am tired and can't see the relevance, because when I multiplied times h [in Js] and then I divide like explained, I get .6925, and the ANSWER is 1.44.

Help? Please?
Yes the answer is 1.44.

You got confused because you plugged in your number way too soon. Consider this:

Only the wavelengths are important. Obviously "R" here is used as "N," th number of photons per second? Well, P=P, you got that, and P=(Rhf)/t and f =c/ lamda.

Just substitute, see what cancel out, and use what you are left with.
 
I double checked the math, looks good.
 
Ok...that was...really weird, I guess I somehow reversed wavelengths? I simply did the reciprocal and it worked, thanks all!
 

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