How Do Split Brake Discs Affect Eddy Currents and Braking Force?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of split brake discs on eddy currents and braking force, exploring the relationship between the geometry of the brake disc, the induced currents, and the resulting braking force. Participants examine theoretical concepts related to electromagnetism and braking systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how cutting a circular aluminum brake disc into two semi-circles affects the induced current and braking force, suggesting a proportional relationship between induced current and magnetic field.
  • Another participant references Faraday's law and Lenz's law, indicating that cutting the disc will significantly alter the eddy currents.
  • A further inquiry is made about the relationship between the area of the aluminum and the eddy currents, seeking clarification on how these factors interact.
  • One participant proposes that if the magnetic field is confined to a specific diameter, the braking force remains unchanged as long as the disc's diameter exceeds that of the magnetic field.
  • A later post raises a question about the relationship between the amount of aluminum and braking force, speculating whether adding another brake disc would lead to a linear increase in induced current and braking force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on how the geometry of the brake disc affects eddy currents and braking force, with no consensus reached on the specific relationships or outcomes.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding and the complexity of the interactions between magnetic fields, induced currents, and braking forces, which remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electromagnetism, braking systems, and the physics of eddy currents may find this discussion relevant.

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Hey guys, the other day i was reading about eddy currents and it was getting interesting, except i had a few questions going through my mind that i couldn't find answers to and wanted to ask:

say we have a circular bit of aluminium which is our brake disc and an electromagnet which induces the current in the disc;

what would be the effect on the braking force if the circular disc were to be cut into 2 semi circles that weren't touching?

on one hand we still have the same amount of aluminium but I am unsure as to how the induced current flowing through the aluminium would be affected. am i correct in believing that the current induced is proportional to the magnetic field induced and so is proportional to the braking force?

i guess what I am really asking is what is the relationship between the area of the aluminium and the induced currents and how do the two magnetic fields interact.

I haven't properly studied this yet, so please forgive any mistakes.

thanks
 
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The current will be proportional to the change in magnetic flux , Faradays law.
And the current will flow in such a way as to oppose the change in B flux lenzs law.
Now that you cut the aluminum ring in half it will make the eddy current change quite a bit.
 
cragar said:
The current will be proportional to the change in magnetic flux , Faradays law.
And the current will flow in such a way as to oppose the change in B flux lenzs law.
Now that you cut the aluminum ring in half it will make the eddy current change quite a bit.

ok

any ideas what kind of relationship there would be between the area of the aluminium and the eddy currents?
 
If you assume the B field is confined to region of diameter D, the eddy currents are important in an area some times D^2. Thus, as long as the disc´s diameter is greater then D, the braking force is the same.
If you have masochistic tendencies,by all means read Smythe's "Static and dynamic electricity", you'll find lots of information about eddy currents.
 
I think i get it now.

One more question, what kind of relationship do you think there would be between the amount of aluminium (i.e. if you put another brake disc next to the existing one) and the braking force?

i was thinking that there would be more induced current and thus a higher induced field, but would this change be linear?

thanks
 

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