B How do we know the stars are not our own light falling back.

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The discussion centers on the idea that the stars we observe might be light from our own solar system returning to us, raising questions about the nature of light and gravity. Participants explore concepts like light being bent by gravity, the possibility of a collapsing universe, and how these theories could explain the distinct galaxies and red shifts observed. However, the consensus is that the electromagnetic waves detected cannot originate from our own system. Ultimately, the complexity of light behavior and cosmic phenomena suggests that the idea of light falling back is not plausible. The thread concludes that the question has been sufficiently addressed, rendering further discussion unnecessary.
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How do we know that the stars we see, or some of them are not the light from our own system falling back, and that we may be looking at light from our own star/solar system/ galaxy that has taken millions of years to fall back on its point of origin?
 
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Colm said:
How do we know that the stars we see, or some of them are not the light from our own system falling back, and that we may be looking at light from our own star/solar system/ galaxy that has taken millions of years to fall back on its point of origin?
Why do you think it is possible for light to "fall back"? How would this result in our seeing MILLIONS of distinct galaxies? How would it account for the specific red shifts of distant galaxies? I could go on and on but it's pointless. The answers are many-fold.
 
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We could be falling through a universe rather than moving "up and out" through it, the shell of this universe could be collapsing and the reflected points are where light is reflected from, our could be a focal point due to lensing. Light, which is also a particle, and can not escape a black hole, would first rise "up" from our point, (constantly moving) and eventually get drawn back in the same direction we are headed
 
Of course this is probably not the case, but for the interest of the point of view, at x magnitude of gravity, in a fixed point how far could a photon travel before being bent back to its point of origin. Perhaps also to not think of it like a ball going up and down, gravity could bend that light around in a circle, so even if the point of origin moved through space, the gravity could be bending light back around and in the direction of our observation point, so would appear to be ahead of us in the direction we are traveling through the universe.. Also to explain the millions of point sources (stars and galaxies).. the light would only come back as a diffuse glow if a reflective boundary was uniform, if there was a boundary to the universal bubble that was pointed like a tesseract, the observation would be different, with light being focused at points.
 
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How would it account for the specific red shifts of distant galaxies? I could go on and on but it's pointless. The answers are many-fold.
Yes, and my first thought has been the line spectra of the stars we observe, or the radio emissions, or gamma emissions or, or, or. As @phinds has said: the answers are many-fold.

There is simply no way that the electromagnetic waves we receive are originated by ourselves.

The question has been answered and a further discussion makes no sense.
Thread closed.
 
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